Sunday, 12/20/09, Public Square


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9 responses to “Sunday, 12/20/09, Public Square

  1. Bad Biker

    Our girl Sarah wins an election……………… with 61% of the vote!

    PolitiFact’s Lie of the Year: ‘Death panels’

    Sarah Palin’s claim about the health care bill is the top choice of PolitiFact editors — and readers.

    “Seniors and the disabled “will have to stand in front of Obama’s ‘death panel’ so his bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of their ‘level of productivity in society,’ whether they are worthy of health care.”

    Sarah Palin, Friday, August 7th, 2009.


    If you type in a ‘non’ Christmas tune… (Say, like, Happy Birthday…)

  3. Once again, The Votemaster, on health-care reform that doesn’t reform…

    It’s a good read, but be prepared to feel mightily discouraged while recognizing that the private insurers are winning and the public is losing.

  4. Robert Reich has a good blog post on the health-care reform that doesn’t reform. Here is a part of what he has to say:

    “The political reality right now is that Harry Reid will do anything to get sixty votes — which means Lieberman, Nelson, and even Olympia Snowe are able to use extortion on behalf of Big Insurance, Big Pharma, the AMA, and abortion foes. The President, meanwhile, remains eerily above the fray. Having closed deals months ago with Big Insurance, Big Pharma, and the AMA — in order to get their support in exchange for guaranteeing them big profits — his only apparent interest is keeping the deals going while helping Reid corral sixty votes for just about anything. (The deals have caused some awkwardness for the White House. Drug importation would have cost Big Pharma far more than the $80 billion price tag it agreed to, forcing the White House to oppose importation even though the President had publicly supported it during his presidential campaign last year, and even though John McCain supported yesterday’s amendment.)

    Is the effort worth still worth it? Yes, but just. Private insurers will have to take anyone, regardless of preconditions. And some 30 million people who don’t now have health insurance will get it. But because Big Insurance, Big Pharma, and the AMA will come out way ahead, the legislation will cost taxpayers and premium-payers far more than it would otherwise. Cost controls are inadequate; in fact, they barely exist. If Wall Street’s top brass are “fat cats,” as the President described them last weekend, the top brass of Big Insurance, Big Pharma, and the AMA are even fatter. While they don’t earn as much, they’re squeezing the public for even more.

    We are slouching toward health-care reform that’s better than nothing but far worse than we had imagined it would be. Even those of us who have seen legislative sausage-making up close, even those of us who never make the perfect the enemy of the better, are concerned. That two or three senators are able to extort as much as they have is appalling. Why hasn’t Reid forced much of the bill into reconciliation, requiring only 51 votes? Why has the President been so cowed? In all likelihood, the White House and the Dems eventually will get a bill they can call “reform,” but they will not be able to say with straight faces that the reform is a significant improvement over the terrible system we already have.”

  5. tosmarttobegop

    It was Senator Obama that said it best about using mandates, “If mandates were the answer we could end the home-less problem by mandating that everyone buy a house!”.

    The mandating of everyone has to buy insurance is at best simple minded at worst willfully ignoring the problems that had prevented many from having insurance. This is screwing those who were the stated reason for reform. “Yeppy-A! we are getting insurance for those who do not have it!
    They simple just have to buy it by Federal law! Bed time now….”.

    Repeatedly I am hearing some defending the go a head of the mission, sadly many are sounding like they are pointing to superficial improvements. As superficial as:

    “instead of those ugly yellow insurance cards you will have pretty blue ones!”

    And it is better we pass an ineffective bill that will end up hurting people then to not pass any bill.
    With such mindset, I would hate to check their underwear they might be full of their own defecation.
    Since that is at least doing something instead of nothing.

    • It’s the worst part of politics. That’s saying something since I can’t find anything good about it.

      They won. And every American lost so the Democrats can say they won.

  6. tosmarttobegop

    LOL well my oldest is on his way, just got the text he landed in Minneapolis normally it is Denver?
    The youngest and family have came over twice now in the last three days, we do not have the room so they are staying at her parents. I can not express how great it is to see him, as I suspected he was not being totally truthful about Iraq. He told me of one mortar attack on the FOB… But the average one a week at least.

    He said the saving grace was that the insurgents did not have enough mortar rounds to practice so the majority of times the round would fly over the FOB. That they were not too good at aiming the mortars.
    And would shoot -N- scoot not wanting to stay in one place and suffer a counter attack from the FOB.

    • Good news! I’m glad for you, your son, your whole family and happier than words can tell that he is safe and back with the people who love him and will help him adjust back to life without war. I can’t imagine what all of you have been through but I know you will all help each other back to better times!

      Tell him thank you for his service — from me!