Thursday, 12/17/09, Public Square

Wright Brothers Day commemorates the first successful flights in a heavier than air, mechanically propelled airplane, that were made by Orville and Wilbur Wright on December 17, 1903, near Kitty Hawk, North Carolina.

Where would Wichita, Kansas be without the aviation industry?


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23 responses to “Thursday, 12/17/09, Public Square

  1. Whose idea was it to have the first half of real estate taxes due December 20th? I’m a bit grumbly about this one!

  2. itolduso

    Something to brighten your day. I cannot hear the sound, but the story looks remarkable

  3. tosmarttobegop

    Yes Fnord it does not make sense from this is the month when people are not thinking about much more then Christmas. That and that its the month that people travel and are buying gifts.

    December is the worst month for taxes to be due, almost inhuman.

    • 6176746f6c6c65

      This is, imo, a vestige of the agricultural heritage of Kansas. The first half (or all) due December 20, a time following fall harvest, etc., when the landowner would perhaps be in the best position to pay. The second half used to be due June 20, after wheat harvest in many years. This was moved up to May 20 a few years ago to accelerate receipts before the end of the fiscal year.

      • lilacluvr

        That makes sense. My folks in Illinois are on the same schedule – and they are in an agricultural state also.

        My real estate taxes are included in my mortgage payment – so the bank gets to use my money all the year round. Aren’t I lucky??


    Now, I’m not the brightest guy about these things, but it’s hard to believe no one had thought of the potential for easy interception of unencrypted feeds. An illustration, once again, of what happens when one assumes.

    • My incredulity about this may, in part, be a product of my interest in and dabbling with FOSS. Combine the ability of a few bright folks developing suitable algorithms for totally legitimate uses (using the preceding term somewhat loosely) with the ability of some to adapt same for nefarious purposes, stir with Pentagon intransigence based upon the experience of “the last war”, and the result is something which may rapidly become FUBAR.


    My response to the above is “so what”? The union in question, along with its union brothers and sisters, does not have a sufficient number of members to elect anyone president. While they can cost someone the presidency, there is a fact they should keep in mind, imho: the unions need the Democrats in Congress more than most of said Democrats need them.

    Yes, the Senate bill needs radical changes; so does the one the House passed. Those changes will not occur, though, just because the unions want them. Without convincing a whole lot more folks, which their ads, etc., seemingly haven’t done, they might as well threaten to hold their breath; both will have the same results.

  6. Think tempers are short in the Senate?

    “Franken shuts down Lieberman on Senate floor

    (AP) – 32 minutes ago

    WASHINGTON — Democratic Sen. Al Franken took the unusual step Thursday of shutting down Sen. Joe Lieberman on the Senate floor.

    Lieberman, a Connecticut independent, currently is the target of liberal wrath over his opposition to a government-run insurance plan in the health care bill.

    Franken was presiding over the Senate Thursday afternoon as Lieberman spoke about amendments he planned to offer to the bill. Lieberman asked for an additional moment to finish — a routine request — but Franken refused to grant the time.

    “In my capacity as the senator from Minnesota, I object,” Franken said.

    “Really?” said Lieberman. “OK.”

    Lieberman then said he’d submit the rest of his statement in writing.

    Republican Sen. John McCain of Arizona came to his friend Lieberman’s defense, saying he’d never seen such a thing occur.

    “I must say that I don’t know what’s happening here in this body but I think it’s wrong,” McCain said on the floor.

    Franken’s spokeswoman, Jess McIntosh, said that the Minnesota senator wouldn’t allow Lieberman to continue because time limits were being enforced by Senate leaders rushing to finish a defense spending bill and get to the health bill.”

    • So, some early cracks in the normally polite and collegial atmosphere of the “Gentleman’s Club” formally known as the U.S. Senate. With respect to Sen. Franken; watch your back.

  7. I guess if health-care reform doesn’t happen here is another way for some to achieve what everyone deserves.

    “According to the Social Security Administration, which runs the two main federal disability programs, new claims for disability benefits rose nearly 17 percent nationwide in fiscal year 2009, to 3 million. Disability filings are projected to rise another 10 percent in fiscal 2010, to 3.3 million new claims.

    These applicants aim to join the roughly 12 million Americans who received disability benefits at a total cost of $161 billion in fiscal year 2009, according to the latest figures from Social Security.”

    • All I know (as one recently found to be disabled by SSA) is that there is a 14 month waiting period before eligibility for Medicare is established. I don’t know why this is, whether it is case specific, or what, but that’s what the award letter says.

      • lillacluvr

        My brother got disability when he was 53 yrs old and was diagnosed with terminal liver cancer. He was also told there was a waiting period (14 months sounds about right) and then he would be on Medicare.

        He did get on Medicare and when he needed a wheelchair (a basic one – not one of those Hover Round things), he was told that Medicare would ‘rent’ one for him for 12 months and if he was still living at the end of that 12 months, then the wheelchair would be his.

        If he were to die before the 12 months was up, the wheelchair would be returned to the health care provider it was being rented through.

        WTF? Basic wheelchairs are not that much to buy outright as compared to all these Hover Rounds I see advertised on television with people saying ‘and it did not cost me one dime’.

        Well, those things cost alot of dimes – the taxpayers! And the worst thing is, Hover Rounds are being used for people with diagnosis of Morbid Obesity more than cases like my brother’s – terminal cancer.

        Now, that is sad. But this is yet another case of Medicare paying way too much money for something that could be as simple as just buying all this medical equipment in bulk at cheaper prices.

    • I received my first check from the government — now paying me to be a bum. 🙂 I know some say SS retirement benefits are earned, but I know full well most draw more than they had deducted from their pay. Hope I’m one of them, but if I’m not I’ll be happy for everyone who is!

      No Medicare yet, but I’m closer.

      • fnord, recall that there are two components to the contribution mix; that which was deducted plus (with a few year exception where it wasn’t) equal percentage employer payment. IIRC, you and perhaps I are toward the end of the line for your statement to be true; those not much younger will “break even”, with those under about age 30 suffering a loss, so to speak.

      • Yes, but, I never worked for anyone who didn’t get a bargain so I earned every matching dollar.

      • That sounds so very conceited and I didn’t mean it to sound quite that bad. I worked hard and made sure my employers got a good days work for a good days pay. 🙂

  8. 6176746f6c6c65

    I didn’t take it as conceit. Really, was just illustrating the two way contribution. If all that was in the account was the employee contribution, we all would receive much more than we individually contributed.