Friday, 11/20/09, Public Square

Transgender Day of Remembrance is an occasion in the LGBT community set aside to memorialize those who were killed due to anti-transgender hatred or prejudice (transphobia). The event is held on November 20.  It was founded by Gwendolyn Ann Smith to honor Rita Hester, whose murder in 1998 kicked off the “Remembering Our Dead” web project and a San Francisco, California, candlelight vigil in 1999. Since then, the event has grown to encompass memorials in hundreds of cities around the world.

As always, this is the thread you decide the topics, so what would you like to discuss today?

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19 responses to “Friday, 11/20/09, Public Square

  1. Interesting.

    Health-care historian: GOP opposing ideas it long espoused

    “There was a time when many of the changes included in the House and Senate health bills would have been considered Republican or at least bipartisan ideas, Starr said. In the days of Harry S. Truman, he said, Democrats favored a single-payer system. The current approach is closer to what President Nixon proposed before Watergate sidelined his plans. He called for universal coverage through a combination of government and employer-based insurance.

    This time, “one group remains unmollified, and that is the Republican Party,” he said. The battle “has become a test of the ability of the Democrats to govern.”

  2. Public Policy Polling brings us the latest installment in pollsters’ ongoing series: “Which crazy conspiracy theory do a majority of Republicans believe now?” The latest example is a question on whether President Obama’s 2008 election victory, in which he defeated his Republican rival by well over 8 million votes, was legitimate or whether the entire operation was somehow rigged by ACORN. Astoundingly, a whopping 52 percent of Republicans polled said they believed ACORN “stole it” for Obama, versus 18 percent among independents who reported the same belief, and 26 percent of the overall population. The numbers come despite the fact that Obama’s margin of victory closely tracked independent polling and despite a lack of evidence of any widespread voter fraud. According to PPP, the number of ACORN conspiracy theorists in the GOP is even higher than the number of “birthers,” which they pegged at 42 percent of the party faithful in September.

    http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/11/poll-gop-base-thinks-obama-didnt-actually-win-2008-election—-acorn-stole-it.php?ref=fpblg

    • While this only represents 26% of the overall population, we should be forewarned these people are out there and are unable to move beyond their obsessions. They have no ability to think, they are badly broken.

  3. If you haven’t yet, I predict you will be hearing a lot more about The Family and its political connections. Here is a short article:

    http://www.kansasfreepress.com/2009/11/raising-the-rent-at-the-c-street-house.html

    Since our elected politicians are so entwined with this group, we should be well-informed on the topic. I intend to buy Jeff Sharlet’s book and do some independent research on the subject.

    If we all become properly informed, we can make this a real issue for our elected representatives to deal with at every town hall, every photo op and in every public appearance.

    • Iggy and jammer and I have read the book, “The Family.” Others here may have as well, those are who I know about. We’ve had a few discussions about the subject.

      We all should be very aware of this group and each of it’s adherents!

      Both Brownback and Moran live at the “C” Street House. Tiahrt seems to be such a loose cannon that although he wants to be an insider, THE FAMILY knows his stupidity might make them more vulnerable to being exposed.

      I don’t think anyone needs to wonder about the Koch family involvement with THE FAMILY.

      snips from the book by Jeff Sharlet:

      “Avant-garde is a term usually reserved for innovators, artists who live strange and dangerous lives and translate their strange and dangerous thoughts into pictures or poetry or fantastical buildings. The term has a political ancestry as well: Lenin used it to describe the elite cadres he believed could spark a revolution. It is in this sense that the men to whom by brothers apprenticed themselves, a seventy-year-old self-described invisible network of followers of Christ in government, business, and the military, use the term avant-garde.

      They call themselves the Family, or the Fellowship, and they consider themselves a core of men responsible for changing the world. Hitler, Lenin, and many others understood the power of a small core of people, instructs a document given to the inner circle, explaining the scope, if not the ideological particulars, of the ambition members of this avant-garde are to cultivate. Or, as a former Ivanwald brother who’d used his Ivanwald connections to find a foothold in the insurance industry told my brothers and me during a seminar on ‘biblical capitalism,’ Look at it like this: take a bunch of sticks, light each one of ’em on fire. Separate, they go out. Put ’em together, though, and light the bundle. Now you’re ready to burn.

      …because in the end he hoped for, the kingdom of heaven on earth toward which both he and the congressmen in the Family were working wouldn’t be a democracy. It won’t, I asked. KING – dom, said Gannon.

      …a veritable underground of Christ’s men all through government. This so-called underground is not a conspiracy. Rather, it’s a seventy-year-old movement of elite fundamentalism, bent not on salvation for all but on the cultivation of the powerful, ‘key men’ chosen by God to direct the affairs of the nation.”

      • Lilac is a wealth of information on these dangerous types! She attended a fundamentalist college, lived among them, knows their evil and how to spot the ways they manipulate the innocents.

      • I’m glad to know that you all are well-informed on this. I am going to see to it that I am informed and I am going to make an issue out of it.

        When it comes to organized religion, we have all got to take a stand and try to remove it from our government and institutions. If Sam Brownback is going to run for governor, I want every press conference, every public appearance, every town hall to be an opportunity to question this infiltration of religion into government.

      • How can you make any inroads when the voters of Kansas see this “infiltration of religion into government,” as a good thing? They see Christianity as a superior religion, will argue till the day is gone that this country was founded on Christianity. They go ballistic when the subjects of “Under God” in the pledge of allegiance to the flag or “In God We Trust” on money are brought up. They think removing prayer from public schools was the beginning of our whole societal downward spin and all things dire.

        They absolutely do not see a Christian theocracy as being dangerous, are unable to equate that “vastly superior theocracy” to others that are based around inferior and wrong religions. They don’t see that they are exactly like those who choose Islam in their stubbornness about which religion is the only true one! They have zero respect for religious beliefs that differ from their own. In fact, they’ll spend all day long telling you how evil Islams are because of their religion.

        Should be really interesting when someone gets enough power to make the decision about which Christian beliefs will be allowed!

        They aren’t even well educated enough to understand what evolution is, don’t know the differences between any of the “isms.” They are unable to understand that Science—and the broader way of thinking that comes with it— are critical to the type of informed decision making that resides at the heart of a democracy. Science trains its adherents and practitioners to relish the very act of questioning for its own sake, of figuring out what’s true and false, of determining what works and what fails. Somehow organized religions have made science a dirty word that stands for something that is ungodly, thus they encourage the disrespect of science.

        Go figure how people can be so easily led and misled!

        But that’s why it’s so easy for these evil men. They use God and they use the people who believe these evil men will bring God back to the prominence of everyday life they think He should hold!

      • “How can you make any inroads when the voters of Kansas see this “infiltration of religion into government,” as a good thing?”

        It’s an uphill battle, but the people that “think” this way are NOT the majority (though it may seem that way to you in the region where you live).

        I may be pulling a major Don Quixote here, but I think that when the majority of folks begin to see what the problems would be with a theocracy, they will get behind cutting these folks out of government like the cancer that they are.

  4. It’s about time those wuzzes we call Democrats pushed through this nomination! Judicial appointments are certainly longer-lasting than any president! Obama needs to get on the ball, and so does the Democratic majority!

    “Senate confirms long-stalled Obama judicial pick

    The Democratic-led U.S. Senate, having smashed through a Republican wall of opposition, confirmed on Thursday U.S. President Barack Obama’s first and longest-stalled judicial nominee.

    On a vote of 59-39, the Senate approved Obama’s bid to elevate U.S. District Judge David Hamilton of Indiana to the Chicago-based 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.

    Senator Richard Lugar of Indiana was the only Republican to vote for the judge’s confirmation. Lugar called him “superbly qualified.”

    The action came two days after the Senate, which is controlled by Democrats, lifted a Republican procedural roadblock against Hamilton, who became Obama’s first judicial nominee in March 2009.

    Federal judges serve for life and have enormous power, ruling on a broad array of issues that range from personal liberties to business rights. Federal appeals courts establish binding precedent with their decisions but only within their jurisdiction.

    Bush, a Republican, had 28 judicial district and federal appeals court nominees confirmed in his first year, while Democratic President Bill Clinton had 27 such confirmations.”

    http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE5AJ22R20091120

  5. Gunning for the Stupak Amendment

    Freshman New York Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand tells why the notorious anti-abortion Stupak amendment will be defeated—and how she’s helping bring it down.

  6. wicked

    I’m going to try posting this today and see what happens. Apparently WordPress does not want me to receive emails about follow-up comments and thinks I should have to go in and okay each one I post. Sorry, that’s just too much. I’ll do it once, but not two, three, or four times.

  7. If you attempt to point out to most religious people the pitfalls, the dangers, they will accuse you of attacking Christianity or Christians!

    I would love to hear how to approach this topic in a way that someone would listen critically and perhaps think beyond their obsessions.

    THE FAMILY will be successful because taking over the power and the money in God’s name sounds loving and good and if someone says they are going to direct the affairs of this nation in a Christ-like manner, they’re in like flint, no more questions need be asked!

    • I know some people will try to use that argument to defend Brownback, but there is a difference between attacking someone’s faith and attacking the fact that someone is allowing themselves to be used by a secretive group.

      The argument that needs to be made is what does this group want, why are they paying the way for certain members of government, what is the quid pro quo? They can SAY they are Christian all they want, but we don’t know WHAT they want because they are a secretive group that has just been caught lying to the IRS about what goes on in their “C Street House.” We know a lot about why members of Congress align themselves with certain group, and it generally has a lot to do with money. So, what exactly is it that this secretive group wants for their money?

      This is not an attack on Christianity, it is an investigation of what is going on with a secretive special interest group. It’s high time, too.

      I know that some people are so brain-washed that they won’t even question, but some will. I believe the brain-washed are in the minority. Look how many votes Obama got in Kansas in the last election.

  8. tosmarttobegop

    Paula I am sorry I do not have a link to the bed pan suit, it was among a list of lawsuits where an award was made in silly lawsuits. One among many like the woman who sued a furniture store because they were not controlling the children in the store. She tripped over a five years old who was running amuck in the store. It was her own son she tripped over! She won the suit too.

    • Thanks; I will try to find it on my own.

      I have found that many of the suits that are touted as examples of why we need tort reform are either misunderstood or purposely twisted, so I always look into them for myself before I accept anything at face value.

      Many of the suits that are used as examples for tort reform have nothing to do with medical malpractice, but are used in that argument. I also understand very well how upsetting it is to see that people can file a petition for non-meritorious charges, BUT the system was set up in favor of the little guy over those in power because this was to be the people’s mechanism for justice. If you are not careful about the way in which you amend this mechanism, it will become a tool that can only be used against the little guy and there will be no justice. Before anyone accuses me of exaggeration or slippery slope, please look into the history of the English courts and you will find out why we have the system that we have.