Saturday, 10/31/09, Public Square

250px-Jack-o'-Lantern_2003-10-31Halloween is an annual holiday celebrated on October 31. It has roots in the Celtic festival of Samhain and the Christian holy day of All Saints. Today, it is largely a secular celebration.

The day is often associated with the colors black and orange, and is strongly associated with symbols like the jack-o-lantern. Halloween activities include trick-or-treating, wearing costumes and attending costume parties, ghost tours, bonfires, visiting haunted attractions, pranks, telling scary stories, and watching horror films.halloween_2



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56 responses to “Saturday, 10/31/09, Public Square

  1. David B

    (Shhhhh… anybody up for tee-peeing fnord’s house tonight?)

  2. (whispers back so as not to wake anyone) mornin’ david…

  3. Harry Houdini died on this date in 1926.

    Shouldn’t go into places you can’t get out of. 🙂

  4. Here is a great thought for this Saturday —

    “It is impossible to defeat an ignorant man in argument.”
    – William G. McAdoo

  5. David B

    Amazingly.. The remastered Beatles catalog is available for download at 25¢ per track on this music site. Get ’em before the lawyers shut ’em down. I downloaded several albums without trouble.

  6. In the race that was supposed to show the impact of the “teabaggers,” Republican state Assemblywoman Dierdre Scozzafava has suspended her campaign for upstate New York’s 23rd Congressional seat, giving a possible boost to Conservative Party nominee Doug Hoffman against Democrat Bill Owens.

    So get ready for much bragging from the teabaggers about this ‘victory.’

    Hoffman does not live in the district he aims to represent, but was heavily funded and endorsed by the likes of Palin, Fred Thompson, Steve Forbes, and Dick Armey.

    The Club for Growth, a right-wing political group that advocates limited government and lower taxes and invented the “RINO Watch” list, in the last moments of the Clinton presidency heavily supported the Hoffman candidacy. They enjoy a sadistic sport — harassing anyone in the GOP who does not kiss the hem of “His Right Honorable Tax Cut,” or who has fresh thoughts outside of a looped reel of Life with Father.

    More interesting is the fact that Jackson Stephens, a major benefactor of the Club for Growth, is a veteran political sniper who can still be heard giggling over his contributions to the Swift Boat riddling of John Kerry’s war record in 2004.

  7. When she dropped out it was after a poll (or two or three?) showed she didn’t any longer enjoy the advantage she did not long ago, and she cited lack of funds. Probably impossible to raise enough money to compete with the groups backing her opponent.

    But, like you jammer, I smell more money than campaign contributions.

    The special election is this next Tuesday. How much campaign money will she save between today and Tuesday? This amount of time does allow her to steer her supporters somewhere else tho. Probably part of the deal I suspect is behind this.

  8. Concert for the rock of ages

    The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is usually known for commemorating history, but this time they may have created it. In celebration of the institution’s 25th anniversary, American music legends from across the board were brought together for two nights at New York City’s Madison Square Garden, in a duo concert that “succeeded in letting rock take an unpretentious look in the mirror.” During jam sessions that chronicled the history of rock, U2 played alongside Bruce Springsteen and Mick Jagger. Other legendary performers included Lou Reed, Sting, Aretha Franklin, Metallica, and Crosby, Stills & Nash. For those unlucky fans who couldn’t afford tickets, an abridged version of the concert will air on HBO November 29.

  9. jammer5

    Something just happened that forces me to remove myself as an author here. It has to do with friendship, and I would rather not blog than lose a friend who has covered my six on more than one occasion. Friendship means way more to me than politics, and to lose a friend over politics just ain’t worth it.

    I have enjoyed it here, and met some great people and hope we keep in touch. It just won’t be either here or Weblog, as I’m dropping both.

    • We won’t lose touch! You are my friend and important to me.

      Remember when we first started this blog?

      One of the doomsday people at WEBlog — one of those who gets on and posts a dozen or more posts complete with caps and bold, mostly cuts n pastes, all warnings about how bad something is — started predicting that McClatchy who owns the Eagle was going out of business. The warnings went on for a few weeks / months last winter. A few of us asked each other where would you go if this blog shut down.

      Thus was born Prairie Populists and Progressives. Our goals then were to stay in touch, to have a place we could talk, ask questions, toss things off one another. I hope that doesn’t change just because some people who can’t conduct themselves as adults have decided to make our business their business. Evil people those troublemakers!

      • Remember recently when WEBlog had some problems and were shut down awhile? We all said how lucky we felt to have planned ahead for a place we knew we’d all be.

        Anyway, best of Saturday to you all! I’m back to the leaves. It is a beeeeuuuutiful day in kakeland!

  10. PrairiePond


    WTF is going on?

    Jammers? I sure hate to see you go!

    It sounds like XXX is suggesting you choose between this blog and your friendship with him. Maybe not, but that’s what it sounds like.

    It also doesnt sound like much of a friendship if someone is telling you to make a choice. My attitude is, if someone gives me an either/or choice, they lose. I know you guys have been friends for a very long time, but geez. It’s a blog! WTF? Sounds childish to me.

    I hope you will reconsider and come back here. You and your posts are highly valued.

    I’m just astounded that gmc, xxx, amway, germie, reg, etc. would give a rat’s ass about being invited to blog here. Hell, the folks who were not invited, (or banned????) have treated most of us like crap on TBTSNBN. Why would they want to come here? So they can treat us like crap in two places? WTF?

    And… I thought the only person “banned” from here was the guy early on who made himself unwelcome by being nasty about guns. And he wasnt banned for disagreeing, he was banned for being a butt.

    • jammer5

      It’s entirely my choice, and has nothing to do with anyone here. XXX and I have been friends for many years, and it’s a friendship I choose not to put on the line for any reason, let alone one over a blog or politics.

      I have no intention of letting the friendships with the people I have gotten to know either here or there lapse. And to tell you the truth, blogging can and has brought out the worst in me. I sometimes forget it’s real people I’m both responding to and about. It’s just not worth it to my peace of mind. I’m tired of being part of this thing we call politics anymore. It’s eating at the very soul of what makes this country what it is, and I really do not to be a part of it that. Taking two otc Prilosec every day doesn’t help either. When it threatens to cost someone a true friend, it’s got to stop, at least for me anyway.

      Besides, I have a book I’m trying to write, and I need to concentrate on that. I’m getting way to old to multi-task anymore 🙂

      • wicked

        Has XXX visited here? Does he know politics is only a part of what we discuss? Whole threads don’t contain anything political.

        In over 45 years, I haven’t given my best friend an ultimatum. We’re probably more different than we are alike and don’t always agree on things. That has sometimes included politics. We accept our differences and continue to remain friends and much like sisters. Isn’t that what adults do? And we did it as children!

      • wicked

        jammer, I have a link for you with tons of writing resources. I meant to post it here yesterday, but time got away and I must have deleted it. When I find it, I’ll send it to you.

    • wicked

      Ha! I remembered where I saw the link. In case you aren’t still here, let me know if you are and got it. 🙂

      Resources for Writers

      • jammer5

        There was no ultimatum. And seriously, I find myself gritting my teeth anytime I post political crap anymore. I know this blog is about much more, but just the same, I’m dropping from both blogs. It’s my decision and my reasons alone. Life’s too short and I’m too old.

        Wicked, you link isn’t 🙂

  11. PrairiePond

    Well Jammers, of course it’s your choice. I just dont understand why this blog is coming between you and your friend. Why would he care where you blog? I’m sorry though that you wont be here, because you are part of what makes this a great place to blog.

    I also understand your feelings about politics right now. I feel the same way, except I’m taking Prevacid, hehehe. It is hopeless and disgusting right now and I dont see it getting better anytime soon. I can hardly write my column every week because I’m thinking this state and this country’s futures are pretty bleak, and writing about that every week is just boring, even if it’s the truth.

    Stay in touch. There are people here who love you.

  12. wicked


    Centuries ago in Europe, children carried turnips that contained candles to light their way on All Hallow’s Eve.

    I’m not sure how that evolved into pumpkins, but that’s where it first began.

  13. wicked

    Scroll down the menu on the left side of the page until you get to The Writer’s Resource Page.

    I blame this headache I woke up with.

  14. PrairiePond

    Blogs are funny things, arent they?

    You can learn to love someone just by blogging with them.

    Or learn to hate others, just by blogging with them.

    I’m just mystified by why anyone over there would care that we are here, enjoying ourselves. We have folks from all over the world who blog here.

    Why would they care?


    • That is really crazy, isn’t it!? Hate a person because they’re different.

      And isn’t it usually small things that snowball instead of something big that causes the most trouble? Is it because the big things must be handled now and sometimes the small things aren’t addressed?

      Hurt, hate, misunderstandings between friends — over a blog? Over where someone chooses to discuss ‘stuff’? Amazing!

  15. I don’t know what happened. But one thing I know for sure is that flying off the handle or acting impulsively won’t help. I think we all need to quiet our souls, reflect, and calm down.

    Calling names, placing blame, even giving too much importance to misunderstandings, to the small things in life causes them to have more significance than they should be given and ends up making the trouble bigger.

    I love all of you. I don’t lie. Honestly, I don’t. And, I wouldn’t hurt anyone on purpose. But it seems I’ve injured some without knowing it, and made others think I lie. I’m sorry. I will do better! And, if I don’t it’s you my friends that should tell me to stop and get on a better track. That’s part of what friends do!

    • jammer5

      fnord, the whole things was my fault because I assumed XXX was banned. I was wrong, and have apologized for it. But after reading some of the responses at the other blog, it just reinforces my decision to stop blogging both here and there. I screwed up, and the shit hit the fan. As far as I’m concerned it’s over.

    • I don’t think there’s any blame to be found.

      It’s a blog!

      And tomorrow the world will still be going round and we’ll all still be friends. ‘Cause, ya know, this kind of stuff doesn’t end friendships! Sometimes, it makes them stronger.

  16. PrairiePond

    Fnord, why are you apologizing? You havent done anything wrong.

    • I don’t know. Because I feel hurt, and others do too and I want it to go away?

      I made a person think I am a liar. I jumped in and said something without knowing what in hell I was talking about.

      When I saw XXX post about receiving an email, I thought the person who went to all the trouble to find our blog was sending emails too. Conspiracy, anyone? I knew no one had been banned (well except that gun nut guy we all voted to ban after days and days of pleading with him). So I jumped in where I shouldn’t have gone. Will I ever learn? You’d think by now I would have learned something.

  17. I’m going to listen to some of the music my good friend jammer shared with me! Music. The universal language.

  18. PrairiePond

    I’ll tell you what, Fnord. Go through the list of people you emailed.

    You’ll find out who this is, I’m sure.

    Posted October 29, 2009 at 6:51 pm | Permalink

    PS: We also saw the emails between you guys alarming everyone we’ve been found.”

    And if this post appears on TBTSNBN, we’ll know they are still driving up our hits 🙂

  19. It’s not there.

    I sent one email — Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 7:24 PM saying our blog addy had been posted at WEBlog.

    And, I use bbc when I send group emails.

  20. PrairiePond

    Fnord, just sayin’, someone on that bcc list is the same guy who posted that from HD or forwarded it.

    Take a look at that bcc list.

    That’s not the first time someone’s claimed to have intercepted our emails.

    Remember tippy?

  21. PrairiePond

    “Yes, Steven was pleased about the revenue increase. We’ll be able to have steaks at our next party.”

    Hee hee hee heeeeee!

  22. wicked

    Here’s my take on the whole ball of wax. (Would that make a round candle?) When this blog was created, invitations were sent out. Since then, we’ve gained many bloggers who didn’t get official invitations. From my perspective, anyone can blog here as long as the Rules posted are adhered to. Other than that, who cares?

  23. So sorry to hear about all of this mess.. I thought it odd that some on WEBlog claimed to intercepting emails… Not sure how they would do that!! Y’all keep in touch, OK??

  24. Zippy

    If someone “intercepted” the email, that just means it got forwarded to someone who knew the people the question. Not tough.

    As for the rest of it, I remained amazed, both at the obsessive tribalism of some, and at how a misunderstanding of a minor slight (which was actually probably more unease at some of the old battles re-igniting than any sort of insult) can somehow turn into a big issue between old friends.

    “Internet: It Doesn’t Make You Others, It Just Makes Your Stupidity Available To Others”

  25. Zippy

    . . .doesn’t make you stupid. Shit.

  26. iggydonnelly

    Indeed. I found myself wondering about how good a “friendship” it was if it was so easily challenged by something so utterly stupid.

  27. iggydonnelly

    But then again, some people are pretty fuckin’ petty.

  28. PrairiePond

    Hi Iggy, Zippy.

    WTF, we never know what the day will bring, do we?

    I think all this just motivates me to do more and better threads here. I’ve been way too lazy.

    Hell, maybe it will even make me want to write my column again!

    Iggy, can I have a cut of the new profits? 🙂

  29. PrairiePond

    …and dammit, I was so busy being amused at amway’s meltdowns over there I burned the KILLER pizza I was making.

    Not to be confused with the sometimes poster at TBTSNBN that also goes by k.p. Heh.

    Mozzarella cheese, fresh basil, fresh garlic, roasted tomato slices, dried oregano (I couldnt find fresh) romano and parm, all drizzled with lots of good olive oil.

    And I burned it. I guess that’s karma for ya. She’s a biotch.

  30. PrairiePond

    Oops, hi Chas too. Didnt mean to leave you out!

  31. Zippy

    Damn, waste of a good pizza! 🙂

    I just stepped out to buy some mini-raisins to give out. I’m at a new address now–about a mile from my previous abode–but if the previous 3 years are any indication, I’ll be eating the raisins by myself!

    Halloween is dead. . .

  32. PrairiePond

    Heh, Zippy, aint it the truth. It’s too scary in real life for kids to go door to door. I used to have lots of little goblins come to the door in Austin and I didnt know one of them.

    Of course now, twenty miles in the country, ten of them dirt roads, is too far for the little spooks to walk.

    Damn kids are soft these days 🙂

  33. PrairiePond

    I was just over at and found a cute Halloween kitteh. I’ll see if I can go back and find the linky.

    Some pretty funny basement kittehs too. So appropo for Halloween!

  34. PrairiePond

    Hee hee heeeee!

    Scroll down to the “apple apple apple” one, and the next one too!

  35. David B

    WTF! See what happens when I’m not around to keep you all in check? whhahhaaa!! What a weird and stupid evening in the WEBLOG tonight.

    I prolly had about 30 or 40 little goblins visit. No candy, but some more nutritious kid treats and food-like substances.

  36. tosmarttobegop

    I don’t get trick-er treat-ers, ever since it came out I am a Republican they are afraid I will cook and eat them! I have been so busy that I have not been on line till about twenty minutes ago.
    LOL last night was interesting, I bought a can of that foam insulation and put the top on.
    Just got the straw in when it erupted and would not stop spewing a moment of what the hell do I do.

    Started to the trash can then turned to go out the door to the patio, finally went down to the windows I was going to foam. Left a trail of foam that looked like Funnel cake and that made me hungry for funnel cake.
    Spent about twenty minutes with a scraper following the trail and scraping the foam up.

    Kind of feeling like coming in on a interesting show in the middle… Wondering what is happening.
    XXX has always struck me as a good guy and Jammer well anyone who love music is a beautiful soul.
    There is so much emotion in this blogging, so much free speaking and never knowing how something may be taken.

  37. Gave out more than a hundred candy bars and had to turn off the porch light and take in the pumpkin at 6:30!

    Everyone on my block except me goes absolutely apeshit with holiday decorations. My next door neighbor has a giant inflatable black cat. For Thanksgiving he’ll have a giant inflatable turkey. For Christmas he’ll haul out the giant inflatable Santa Claus. I mentioned last January I was expecting a giant inflatable Martin Luther King. He didn’t think it was funny.

    Anyway, all the other neighbors decorate, too. I put a ceramic pumpkin with a candle on the porch and give out candy bars. Around the first of December I hang a pine-cone wreath on the door; it was made by my Aunt before she died. (It she’d made it after she died, I’d hang it on the door for Halloween.

  38. wicked

    My GROWN kids still do costumes for Halloween! I sit at home with the lights out and watch TV. Not much T&Ting in this neighborhood.

    My best memories as an adult (pre-children) were when friends hosted a Treasure Hunt on Halloween. I’d forgotten they did the first one until this evening, but remember well the next year when we joined them in the planning. We sent people all over the countryside (and I do mean “country”), chasing clues. The next year we sent them into Wichita, where they had to do things like buy a beer and get a clue from the bartender in a certain tavern.