Saturday, 10/17/09, Public Square

world wakes up

I hope the picture above is the kind of world you woke up to!   What’s on for your weekend?  What shall we talk about on this open thread?



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21 responses to “Saturday, 10/17/09, Public Square

  1. David B

    Good morning, all.

  2. jammer5

    Okay, I broke my vow already, but I couldn’t pass this one up. They posted a thread about the rewriting of the bible by conservative fruitcakes, and you know me: I can’t pass up telling a good joke 🙂

    Anyway, ‘mornin’ to ya all. Went and saw an ordinary citizen yesterday. Despite having some excellent actors in it, it kinda sucked. Stiff, predictable dialog, and wooden acting. Blame the director. Wait for the DVD, then rent it for $0.50 . . . or don’t.

    • Ya know if no one went over there I’d have to go just to see what was going on. You’re doing a service. 🙂

      I slept in to almost 8 o’clock. Unbelievable! Griffin was very quiet when he got up and dressed for golf, the pets let me sleep too. Now, I feel a little groggy.

      I guess I would complain if I was hung with a new rope.

    • I went over there. My excuse was to read what jammer said. I liked what you said jammer! 🙂

      Most important for me is that I think this will work this time. I wasn’t tempted to say anything. I recognize anything I might say would elicit accusations that I am attacking Christianity.

      They have bought into this and are unable to see the very thing they protect is gone because they were so blinded they protected those who stole it. They don’t see a theocracy based on Christianity as being anything but good. They’ll cooperate and give the power to those who will control them, never understanding that they’re giving up their very right to choose how to worship by giving the choice to the people who make the civil laws.

  3. jammer5

    Remember this sing? Simply beautiful:

  4. tosmarttobegop

    I think it is because Rush Limbaugh is Gay! He has to be otherwise how could you explain why would he have gone on a trip with four men and a month supply of Viagra?

    Well this morning my big yellow fuzzy boy is laying on my lap. He had a adventure since Wednesday.
    Since coming to live with us, he went from a house cat to spending most of the time outside weather permitting.

    Generally hanging out in the back yard and coming up when ever someone goes out there.
    But I noticed I had not seen him for several days, most of it I dismissed as it was raining.
    And neither he or I go out in the rain less there is a good reason.

    But when I still had not seen him yesterday, I wondered? He truly is my cat, he finally did accept my wife.
    But he is more the male cat then taking to females.

    I call the local animal clinic where people turn in animals and the animal control officer brings animals they catch. Sure enough they had a long haired and yellow cat, so I went to see if it was him.
    I looked in the cage and at first he was laying there as if he was sick, then he saw me!

    LOL I thought he was going to come through the cage door, He rush up and started pleading his distress.
    Since I could not prove he had his shots, he had but he is one of those cats that will not keep a collar on.
    We had played this game of I put the collar on with the tags. And within days find the collar laying somewhere in the house. He finally figured it out I think and found a place out of the way and sight.

    So it ended up costing me $42.00 and he was in my arms, the relationship has once again been renewed.
    When he had finally accepted me after a week of hiding when he first came here.
    He would follow me and sat on my lap most of the time but once he got use to being outside and the adventures of that.

    He seem to not feel that close a relationship was needed.
    But since coming home yesterday he has stayed in and close to me.

    • So glad he’s back and whole. Wonder where he was, what happened, why he wants to be so close now? Guess he doesn’t want a repeat of his ‘adventure.’

  5. jammer5

    Australian humor about the ship that split in two, dumping mega-gallons of oil off the coast. This is hilarious:

  6. anniethemoose

    Obama grows a set, if he also goes after the banksters my faith will be restored.


    In unusually harsh terms, Mr. Obama cast insurance companies as obstacles to change interested only in preserving their own “profits and bonuses” and willing to “bend the truth or break it” to stop his drive to remake the nation’s health care system. The president used his weekly radio and Internet address to push back against industry assertions that legislation will drive up premiums.

    “It’s smoke and mirrors,” Mr. Obama said. “It’s bogus. And it’s all too familiar. Every time we get close to passing reform, the insurance companies produce these phony studies as a prescription and say, ‘Take one of these, and call us in a decade.’ Well, not this time.”

    Rather than trying to curb costs and help patients, he said the industry is busy “figuring out how to avoid covering people. And they’re earning these profits and bonuses while enjoying a privileged exemption from our anti-trust laws, a matter that Congress is rightfully reviewing.”

    Mr. Obama’s sharp attack comes as the health care debate moves out of congressional committees to the wider stage of floor debates in the Senate and House. While he has criticized insurers before, his bare-knuckled language on Saturday reflected a more open break with the industry and recognition that his efforts to bring it into some sort of consensus had failed.

  7. We’re going to get health-care reform.

    Will it be beneficial to most? Guess we’ll have to wait to see.

    But, it’s a start and if what I read yesterday is true and Congress must buy from any cooperative the reform includes, if it’s not pretty damn good at least we know it will get attention!

    • wicked

      Sorry, fnord, I know many think this is a big deal, but why? With the money we pay these guys (and gals) to screw us over, what lesson is it they’ll be learning? We’ve been paying their way for a long time now. Nothing will change.

    • Don’t you think they’ll make changes to their own coverage if it isn’t good?

      Or is it that you don’t believe they’ll be covered by what their new laws make for everyone else?

      • wicked

        I don’t know. Just a gut feeling, I guess.

        Hard to stay positive, ya know? Oh, wait! That’s another thread. 🙂

  8. A federal grand jury has been mighty busy for a mighty long time with these indictments! Don’t miss this one — it is probably the tip of the iceberg, and it’s about time!

    “Six Charged in Vast Insider-Trading Ring

    The case against him reads like a thriller. An unnamed cooperating witness, described as a onetime Galleon employee, helped spark the investigation, taping conversations with Mr. Rajaratnam. That led to broader wiretaps that capture the bravado of traders looking for an advantage. Prosecutors said the case is the first to use wiretaps for pursuing insider-trading charges.

    Relying on phone wiretaps, the criminal complaint described a period from 2006 and 2008 when Mr. Rajaratnam and his group allegedly swapped information that could move a stock. Wiretap transcripts appeared to show Mr. Rajaratnam working closely with Ms. Chiesi, with her serving as a key link between him and a network of contacts.

    Excerpts of taped conversations contained in court filings purported to show rapid-fire exchanges of information, and strategies about how best to trade on it. The wiretaps captured the high-pressure world of hedge-fund trading, as the duo discussed how certain information would weigh on coming earnings announcements of IBM, Akamai Technologies Inc. and others.

    The transcripts showed Ms. Chiesi talking with Mr. Kurland, quoting him as telling her in August 2008: “Don’t put anything in email…. Don’t email even Raj.”

  9. jammer5

    Notice none of this happened on Bushes watch. It is estimated conservatively that over 100 billion in taxes are owed by these cheats. I hope they name every one of them:

    Some 7,500 international tax dodgers have applied for an amnesty program that promises no jail time and reduced penalties for tax cheats who come forward, the Internal Revenue Service announced Wednesday.

    The tax dodgers were hiding money in more than 70 countries and on every continent except Antarctica. Accounts ranged from just over $10,000 to more than $100 million.

    Response to the program has been unprecedented, IRS Commissioner Doug Shulman said.

    “The whole idea of this program was to get people in and get them on the right side of the law,” Shulman said.

    The IRS long has had a policy that certain tax evaders who come forward before they are contacted by the agency usually can avoid jail time as long as they agree to pay back taxes, interest and hefty penalties. Drug dealers and money launderers need not apply. But if the money was earned legally, tax evaders can usually avoid criminal prosecution.

    Fewer than 100 people apply for the program in a typical year, in part because the penalties can far exceed the value of the hidden account, depending on how long the account holder has evaded U.S. taxes.

    In March, the IRS began a six-month amnesty program that sweetened the offer with reduced penalties for people with undeclared assets. The program was extended once, until Thursday. Shulman said it will not be extended again.

    The program is part of a larger effort by the Obama administration to crack down on Americans who evade U.S. taxes by hiding assets in overseas accounts. In August, the U.S. and Switzerland resolved a court case in which Swiss banking giant UBS AG agreed to turn over details on 4,450 accounts suspected of holding undeclared assets from American customers.

  10. If you haven’t been outside yet, don’t let the sunshine fool you — it’s cold and the wind pushes that damp cold into your bones.

    I just returned from a 30-minute walk in the park. Ginger is banned to outside until I warm up and catch my breath so she can have a bath (which will turn into my second of the day). She rolled in poop! I don’t mind her catching up on her smell mail while we’re at the park, but some of it she brings home, and that smelly stuff should remain in the park! Would this be dog porn?

  11. David B

    Flights to Cancun $98.

    • It costs twice as much to fly to Boston shortly before Thanksgiving than the usual fare. 😦 And, trust me Boston isn’t necessarily where a person wants to be in mid-November! Maybe I can talk my son to moving to Cancun for a week — I really do want to stay with him for nothing.

  12. Obviously we all need an invite to ‘google wave.’ Will we know what to do with it?