Thursday, 09/24/09, Public Square

I loved the look back into time from yesterday.  Add some of your memories here.




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73 responses to “Thursday, 09/24/09, Public Square

  1. What are all those things…hahah

  2. I still have the exact Betty Crocker cookbook pictured here. It’s the one I’m most comfortable with too, can always turn to the right page, and the way the words are written feels comfortable, like something I could do. As you all know, I’m not a cook. I do, however, look through recipes and imagine that I could duplicate that… 🙂 Reality is I don’t venture too far from the meat & potatoes, simple meals.

    • wicked

      I have what’s left of a very worn copy of Betty Crocker’s Cookbook for Children. The sugar cookie recipe I use is in there, although I think the page is next to unreabable now. I’ll have to look (again) at Amazon for it. Can’t remember if it was there or not, but I think it was.

  3. anniethemoose

    Wow it’s really mind boggling to think of all the changes in the last 100 yrs. My great grandmother was born in 1895. She grew up in Chicago at a time when horse drawn carriages were a common sight down town.


    now for something completely different


    If the Republicans ever manage to retake Congress, they will absolutely try to impeach President Obama. And it’ll be based upon a supremely ridiculous charge such as, say, the president refusing to nourish our crops with a sports drink instead of water.

    • They would, wouldn’t they?

      They will also talk lots about how weak the Democratic Party is and the fact of not bringing impeachment charges during bush the lessors term will become a great weakness to be ridiculed.

    • tosmarttobegop

      OMG Annie LOL you too have seen that movie and how frightening it is that it seem we are heading so in that direction!

  4. wicked

    fnord, I stumbled upon the Facebook group “You know you’re from Wichita if…” last night and saw your name as a group member. Wow, the ‘I remember’ discussion brought back some memories.

    I think I’ll go steal some. tee hee

  5. Speaking of ‘things’ from the past — my oldest daughter Tonya has found the perfect Christmas gift for her brother Chad (he’s the one who lives in Boston). She was cruisin eBay and found a February 1972 copy of Playboy — the month and year of his birth.

    So now I won’t be able to find anything that cool to give him! But, I’ll pass along the suggestion and maybe one of you can use it for someone.

    btw, the Playboys from the early 70s don’t show as much as most of today’s television shows!

    • tosmarttobegop

      I had that issue…hidden in a secret place… along with several issues of Cosmo…. What I always thought was funny is that Comso showed more female nudity then Playboy?

  6. tosmarttobegop

    When the family got their first color TV! Man now that was memorable, it seemed as much a advancement at a cure for cancer. The discovery of fire and the invention of the wheel. Your families status was improved by it within your circle of friends. LOL I was the last within that circle to get one.

    Another is a microwave oven, I saw no use for it but finally bought one for a special gift for my wife.
    Now I can not imagine not having one! I am so spoiled, but back then it did not seem all that important.
    There was nothing on TV that was more interesting that friends. Even after we finally got a color TV which I said we were the last among my friends to get one.

  7. jammer5

    HONG KONG – Sarah Palin spoke to a group of private Chinese investors in Hong Kong yesterday. Despite glaring ignorance about the region, the audience, and the topic at hand, the group found her folksy and charming.

    “I’m going to call it like I see it,” she said early in her speech, “and I will share with you candidly a view right from Main Street, Main Street U.S.A. First there’s a deli on the corner, next to that is the barber shop…” She then went on to describe her hometown for the next 20 minutes. The assembled group of Chinese investors were bewildered, and a little disappointed. “We hired her to get a perspective on rural America, not just her town.” While Palin was mid-way through a story about the first time she made out outside a Dairy Queen, an aide whispered in her ear and she moved on with the speech.

    “Ya know, our cultures are very different, but we share common dreams. Where I come from, in America, we look up to mavericks who drift away from the herd. Here, ya’ll are like those terracotta soldiers. You respect same-ey-ness. But we can all agree that we strive for the same dreams: free-market economic opportunity without government regulation.” At this the group of investors applauded loudly.

    Finding new energy, Palin’s speech rambled on for an extra 15 minutes, about how the investors should channel the strength of the ancient samurai, about the tragedy of David Carradine’s death, about the one Asian couple in Alaska that she’s “pretty sure” are Chinese, how popular Pad Thai is around the world, and how “it’s great America and China can come together like this after we kicked your butt in the war.”

    The assembled investors seemed confused but enjoyed the speech thoroughly. “After years of living outside an American hegemony, it’s wonderful to see this is the person who almost ran your country.” Another anonymous guest said, “Oh she was great! I wanna hire her for my kid’s birthday!”

    Sarah Palin is believed to be preparing for a possible 2012 bid for the Presidency.

  8. Thunderchild

    This showed up on WE Blog and I liked it.

    • wicked


      Did Sanford’s wife leave him? Gee, I’m behind on the Republican cheating news.

    • Too much ‘crossing the line’ going on in our world today. The Republicans who seem to be naturally grumpy are mad as hell (for a long list of reasons, mostly fabricated!) and their behavior is childish, maybe dangerous.

  9. wicked

    Remember When…?

    All the girls had ugly gym uniforms?

    It took five minutes for the TV to warm up?

    Nearly everyone’s mom was at home when the kids got home from school?

    Nobody owned a purebred dog?

    When a quarter was a decent allowance?

    You’d reach into a muddy gutter for a penny?

    Your mom wore nylons that came in two pieces?

    All your male teachers wore neckties and female teachers had their hair done
    every day and wore high heels?

    You got your windshield cleaned, oil checked, and gas pumped, without asking,
    all for free, every time?

    And you didn’t pay for air? And, you got trading stamps to boot?

    Laundry detergent had free glasses, dishes or towels hidden inside the box?

    It was considered a great privilege to be taken out to dinner at a real
    restaurant with your parents?

    They threatened to keep kids back a grade if they failed. and they did?

    When a 57 Chevy was everyone’s dream car…to cruise, peel out, lay rubber
    or watch submarine races, and people went steady?

    No one ever asked where the car keys were
    because they were always in the car, in the ignition, and the doors were
    never locked?

    Lying on your back in the grass with your friends
    and saying things like, “That cloud looks like a ….”

    and playing baseball with no adults to help kids with the rules of the game?

    Stuff from the store came without safety caps and hermetic seals because no
    one had yet tried to poison a perfect stranger?

    And with all our progress, don’t you just wish, just once, you could slip
    back in time and savor the slower pace, and share it with the children of today?

    When being sent to the principal’s office was nothing
    compared to the fate that awaited the student at home?
    Basically we were in fear for our lives,
    but it wasn’t because of drive-by shootings, drugs, gangs, etc.
    Our parents and grandparents were a much bigger threat! But we survived
    because their love was greater than the threat.

    Can you still remember…
    Nancy Drew, the Hardy Boys, Laurel and Hardy,
    Howdy Dowdy and the Peanut Gallery, the Lone Ranger, The Shadow Knows,
    Nellie Bell, Roy and Dale, Trigger and Buttermilk.

    As well as summers filled with bike rides, baseball games, Hula Hoops,
    bowling and visits to the pool, and eating Kool-Aid powder with sugar.
    Didn’t that feel good, just to go back and say,
    “Yeah, I remember that”?

    This was shared with you because it ended with a double dog dare to
    pass it on. To remember what a double dog dare is, read on.
    And remember that the perfect age is somewhere between old enough to know better
    and too young to care.

    How many of these do you remember?

    Candy cigarettes

    Wax Coke-shaped bottles with colored sugar water inside.

    Soda pop machines that dispensed glass bottles

    Coffee shops with tableside jukeboxes

    Blackjack, Clove and Teaberry chewing gum

    Home milk delivery in glass bottles with cardboard stoppers

    Newsreels before the movie

    P.F. Fliers

    Telephone numbers with a word prefix….(Juno 4-2818). Party lines


    Howdy Dowdy

    45 RPM records

    Green Stamps


    Metal ice cubes trays with levers

    Mimeograph paper

    Beanie and Cecil

    Roller-skate keys

    Cork pop guns

    Drive ins


    Washtub wringers

    The Fuller Brush Man

    Reel-To-Reel tape recorders


    Erector Sets

    The Fort Apache Play Set

    Lincoln Logs

    15 cent McDonald hamburgers

    5 cent packs of baseball cards –
    with that awful pink slab of bubble gum

    Penny candy

    35 cent a gallon gasoline

    Jiffy Pop popcorn

    Do you remember a time when…

    Decisions were made by going “eeny-meeny-miney-moe”?

    Mistakes were corrected by simply exclaiming, “Do Over!”?

    “Race issue” meant arguing about who ran the fastest?

    Catching the fireflies could happily occupy an entire evening?

    It wasn’t odd to have two or three “Best Friends”?

    The worst thing you could catch from the opposite sex was “cooties”?

    Having a weapon in school meant being caught with a slingshot?

    A foot of snow was a dream come true?

    Saturday morning cartoons weren’t 30-minute commercials for action figures?

    “Oly-oly-oxen-free” made perfect sense?

    Spinning around, getting dizzy, and falling down was cause for giggles?

    The worst embarrassment was being picked last for a team?

    War was a card game?

    Baseball cards in the spokes transformed any bike into a motorcycle?

    Taking drugs meant orange-flavored chewable aspirin?

    Water balloons were the ultimate weapon?

    If you can remember most or all of these, then you have lived!!!!!!!

    Pass this on to anyone who may need a break from
    their “grown-up” life . .. .I double-dog-dare-ya!

    (I grabbed this from my HS class website, where I’d added it after grabbing it from somewhere else. LOL)

  10. wicked

    Here’s a fun test to see how good your memory is, but you’ll have to go to the website. 😉

  11. tosmarttobegop

    It seem so much lately that things are like driving drunk, the lines are blurry and crossing them is nothing more then a huh moment and then you steer back and hope no one saw you cross it.

  12. wicked

    This is from Facebook:

    Calvins hamburgers at Seneca and Harry
    The ‘Big Leaguer” restaurant on Seneca (circle cinema now)
    The ‘Fairland’ was original Chinese food.
    Green chile enchaladas at Burkes Steakhouse (south broadway) hottest in town!!!
    It was actually the Meadowlark / Twin drive-ins
    Biker bars that had “check your guns at the door” signs on south broadway
    Rainbow drive-in (broadway and pawnee)
    Courtney Davis lake north of town
    Sandy beach south of town
    MacArthur beach and Midland beach on MacArthur east of Seneca
    Shutter-bug Day hosted by Greg Gamer and KAKE TV in Riverside Park ( you could actually photgraph girls in their swim suits!)
    The Cobbler with John Froome
    Freddy Fudd with Henry Harvey
    Major Astro / The Host and Rodney ( i forget his name)
    Kard gang club on channel 3 (my first time on tv)
    Elmer Childress
    Sky King

    (If I’d gone there earlier, I’d have found the name Elmer Childress and answered PrairiePond’s question much sooner!)

    • Maybe I was involved with the remodeling at the circle cinema, but before it was a porn theatre, it was a bar, maybe. When I was in early high school, (1970 or before) I worked by helping a guy lay carpet and I remember us putting some long whispy white shag carpet on a stage there. The hippies who owned the place, said “Wow, man, that stage looks like a cloud….” It kind of did, actually.

      • wicked

        I don’t remember a stage or white carpet, but I had a membership when it was a club. You know, back in the days when you couldn’t drink in a club without a membership, and then you had to have a liquor card or leave your own bottle. That would have been summer of ’72, I think. ’73 at the latest. Those early ’70 years run together. 🙂 I remembered the name of the place then the other day. Now I’ve forgotten again. The Stadium, maybe?

  13. Trip to the Outhouse

    Somebody here at work had a birthday yesterday, and I just told her today was “pinch day” and tomorrow would be “kiss day”. Nobody here knew about that, not even the ones older than me.

    Am I remembering correctly? Or was that just something from my hometown?

  14. wicked

    Roller skates. They were metal and fastened onto your shoes. You had to have a key to do it. (“I’ve got a brand new pair of roller skates, you’ve got a brand new key”) My mother nearly killed me over those skates. I don’t know how many pairs of “good” shoes I ruined with them.

  15. anniethemoose

    What city is the Berlin Wall in?

  16. lilacluvr

    Sarah Palin also spoke disparagingly against our president while she was on foreign soil.

    I wonder how soon the Republicans will ‘Dixie Chick’ this woman for being unpatriotic?

    I’m not holding my breath….

  17. lilacluvr

    Why are we so surprised about the behavior of college kids when the adults in our society act the same way?

    There was an incident in Andover about some cheerleaders allegedly hazing. How many times have we heard about hazing in the past few years but yet it continues?

    But on the Opinion Line there were posters condemning the school officials for putting the cheerleaders on notice. Many of the opinions was that it was none of the school’s business what the cheerleaders did off campus.

    But cheerleaders and sports athletes have an obligation to conduct themselves in a civil manner and if they cannot seem to do that, then perhaps these kids do not deserve to be cheerleaders or athletes?

  18. 6176746f6c6c65

    In the words of someone close to the situation, but who must remain anonymous, the incident is the natural result of “too many thugs in too small a space”.

    This type of crap has gone on at KU, and I suspect other major colleges, before. The advent of the internet, social networking sites, and the continued elevation of gifted athletes over us mere mortals to where they feel collectively that they are exempt from societal norms, makes it more difficult to keep this quiet. Add the “win at all costs” mentality of boosters, et al, and it is remarkable that more incidents of this kind are not in the news daily.

    What I have also heard is there is a female involved, one who dated a member of one team and who has switched allegiances, so to speak, by now dating a member of the other team. Allegedly, the underlying cause (switching sides) occurred last Spring, and the friction thereby created has been boiling just below the surface since then. There were a few minor fracases over the Summer, with the whole sorry mess erupting two nights ago.

    Too much testosterone plus large egos equals potential disaster. That’s my take.

  19. The way we waste it here, this may be better news than we can imagine!

    “Surprise! Water Found On Moon’s Surface

    Three different space probes have gathered evidence that the top layer of the moon’s surface contains hidden stores of water.”

    continue reading here —

  20. Does anyone remember the Shakey’s Pizza place on Oliver (I think), just south of 13th St.? It was always so crowded you could barely move, but a fun place. Was it another of those places I went to before I was ‘legal?’

    • wicked


      Shakey’s was a family restaurant, although they did serve beer. We went there a lot in high school, and always after the Battle of the Bands. There was a Shakey’s on Pawnee, just west of Seneca, which is where we always went. My 18th birthday includes memories of a buying pitcher at Shakey’s and going across the street to the grocery store at Westway to get a can of tomato juice and a ‘church key’, which we took back to Shakey’s and made reds.

      After Shakey’s, there’s a story about a bottle of cherry vodka, but I’ll refrain from telling that one. 🙂

  21. Was sloe gin the red substance that made every novice very ill (at least every one I knew)?

  22. I recall the Shakey’s on Pawnee near Seneca. There was a guy playing the piano and watching the guys toss your pizza in the air was the other entertainment. It was a time when you did not eat pizza once a week, or more often.

    I had a former boss who had a long career as a Wichita Police Officer. He would tell the story about how he and some fellow officers were approached about investing in the ground floor of Pizza Hut. None of them did. They thought the idea of pizza places as being a loser. I don’t recall that boss as being a real sharp guy.

    • wicked

      My best friend worked at Pizza Hut corporate offices, very early on after it had gone nationwide. She was the one who read and responded to customer letters. The ones from back east were always highly complimentary. Pizza Hut’s pizzas were a lot different from the usual fare there.

      I think I’d slit my wrists if I’d been offered a chance like that boss of yours and didn’t take it.

      It was sad when they sold to Pepsico. Even sadder when operations were moved to…Texas?

      Where was the second Pizza Hut located? I know where the first was. I worked a block or two away from that building before it was moved to WSU.

  23. 6176746f6c6c65

    I think you have correctly identified the substance, fnord. At least, it made all females I knew who indulged in the stuff very ill; or, on second thought, perhaps the combination of sloe gin fizzes and what subsequently occurred after imbibing (in many cases) made them very ill. I shall assure you I did not employ such nefarious means to try to gain the advantage in such situations, but shall confess to knowing many who did.

  24. It was so silly — the drinking something that tasted so bad. I didn’t ‘drink’ until I was past 30, however, I probably tasted more different drinks than most people. It seemed like a challenge when I would say, just a Pepsi please. First, they had to determine why and when they learned I thought Pepsi tasted better, they always had a drink I would love. Everyone failed!

    • wicked

      A lot of it does taste bad. Some drinks, made well, don’t have the alcohol taste, just a little warmth. I like Chi-Chi’s (pina collada with vodka instead of rum–don’t like rum) and used to drink Tom Collins.

      Oooh, I know one you might like, fnord. A Smith and Kerns. It’s half and half (or cream), soda, and Kahlua. Tastes like chocolate milk and won’t get you smashed. 😉 Use vodka insead of soda for a White Russian.

      • 6176746f6c6c65

        Or, a well aged single malt (option:serve over ice).

      • “Oooh, I know one you might like, fnord.”

        Not a problem today! Griffin called me a cheap date when he began dating me, I would ask for coke to be added to the cuba libra (the drink’s name included my astrological sign) several times making it last a very looong time. He put me in training and I’ve proven an apt pupil — can kick em back with the best of em! In fact, I watch myself carefully. First sign is that my nose grows numb and my brain seems to follow quickly.

      • wicked

        Well, that makes 2 cheap dates. 🙂 Although I think you got the better “dater”, or is that datee?, of the 2.

        I did my drinking when I was young. I do have a few on New Year’s and one or two throughout the year. Then there’s that free champagne at the Harlequin party on those–lately–years I go to conference. I heard this year in D.C. that they had open bar, each bar highlighting a drink from a decade over the past 60 years.

        And I hear ya on the numb nose!! That’s my signal, too. And when the lips go numb, I know there may be some worshipping at the porcelain shrine later, foot on the floor or not.

  25. 6176746f6c6c65

    Geez, wicked; all one needs is a well-aged single malt over ice. Nothing better.

    • wicked

      You can have mine, 6176. I’m a fruity gal. And no bourbon. Just smelling it makes my stomach turn. Could be because I tried to take a big swig of Jim Beam on a dare. Or was it Jack? Whichever, it made it halfway down my throat, and my throat said NO WAY! Or maybe when it was mixed with cheap Mexican wine behind my back once?

      Live and learn.

  26. I remember drinking White Russians in college one time – I got terribly hammered – not a fun time…

    • wicked

      Yeah, vodka can kill ya. It sneaks up, and then WHAM! I’ve learned to move around while drinking it.

      We made Black Russians with chocolate ice cream one New Year’s. Interesting.

  27. Thunderchild

    “There was a Shakey’s on Pawnee, just west of Seneca,”

    I remember that! They had a buffet with pizza and fried chicken.

    Anybody remember the old “Mugs Up!” Rootbeer trailer that was along Seneca? I was real little then.

  28. “cuba libra (the drink’s name included my astrological sign)”

    I knew these crazy Cubans when I was in college. They said the “Cuba Libra” – rum and Coke – was named for and meant “The liberation of Cuba”. Maybe they were pulling my leg. They did that sometimes.

  29. Bad Biker

    Braggin’ time………………………

    My beautiful granddaughter, Riley, was elected Vice President of her magnet elementary school student council, in her first year of eligibility, in the Fourth Grade.

    Personally, I managed her campaign, wrote her stump speech, coined her campaign motto and designed her campaign posters.

    I am the “David Axelrod” of Riverside Elementary School politics!

    Actually, all the credit goes to Riley.

    Now I have to call her “Madam Vice President!”

    Ah! It’s all good. I am so proud of her. Poppa did his part and she did the rest!

    • So does the grandfather of a vice-president need to be treated differently? Ya know with a little more respect. 🙂 It’s so nice to ‘see’ the pride in just words. Congratulations to all!

  30. Thunderchild

    “The ‘Big Leaguer” restaurant on Seneca (circle cinema now)”


    I have been trying to remember the name of that restaurant for YEARS.

    I’m remembering inside it was like a stadium with penants and stuff.

    MOST of the time I was growing up, it was giving Vern Miller fits as the Circle Cinema.

  31. wicked

    For lilac and anyone else still interested…

    More news on the hanging death of the census worker.

  32. Justice Ginsburg Hospitalized
    Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg Hospitalized After Becoming Ill At Work

  33. My cousin, Corey Martin, is a designer, lives in NYC but spent this summer in Maine. He posted to our family site today and I thought you guys might get a kick out of what he had to say about former President Bush (the first).

    Well I am almost done working in Maine for the summer, although it is already fall here. We opened the final show, ‘All Shook Up,’ last week. This is the first show that I have fully designed here at the Playhouse and has been one of the biggest challenges of my life. I actually designed this show earlier this year for two theaters in Kentucky. It is a really fun show based on Shakespeare’s Twelfth Night, and all the songs in the show are Elvis songs.

    We have a great cast here. There are several well known Broadway performers in the cast and of course we have Sally Struthers playing the uptight mayor of the small town where the show takes place. We have not yet done a full photo shoot for the show, but when i get some pics I will get them posted.

    Today was once again a very interesting day at work because George and Barbara Bush came to see the show. I spent much of intermission trying to hide Jen Cody from him. She was wearing a leopard bustier I made for her and he had wandering eyes. It was really funny, and Barbara kept looking at me and rolling his eyes when he wouldn’t leave her alone. I finally had to just say, we better hurry and finish getting you ready or we can’t start the show. It was really funny to think of the former president as a dirty old man. I guess I shouldn’t be surprised, he is a politician.

  34. tosmarttobegop

    LOL I am Regular’s toy today on the BTSNBN. He accused me of showing my leftist/ Liberal behind.

    I replied with I am not sure why regular confuses critical thinking and realistic evaluation with being a Leftist/Liberal? Both were once said to be assets attributed to the Republican party. But there are different factions with in the party. Perhaps Regular’s faction does not consider critical thinking and realistic evaluation as assets.

  35. Many over there throw out bait in hopes they can draw a fight. I ignore them and refuse to play their childish game.

  36. tosmarttobegop

    A man asks his wife what she would do if he won the lottery? She said I would take half and leave your sorry ass! He then told her, he had won 12 dollars and here is her 6 dollars and now get out!