Monday, 09/14/09, Public Square

cannedbeets

If you were still a kid and your parents were going to ban you from whatever the president supported, what would you hope the speech would be about?

Brand new week.  What are you planning?

fnord

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28 responses to “Monday, 09/14/09, Public Square

  1. anniethemoose

    http://www.pensitoreview.com/2009/09/13/right-wing-lies-about-912-crowd-size-too-extreme-even-for-fox-news/

    holy sh!t batman,DC gets teabaged

    Conservative activists … erroneously attributed reports on the size of the crowds to ABC News.

    Matt Kibbe, president of FreedomWorks, the group that organized the event, said on stage at the rally that ABC News was reporting that 1 million to 1.5 million people were in attendance.

    At no time did ABC News, or its affiliates, report a number anywhere near as large. ABCNews.com reported an approximate figure of 60,000 to 70,000 protesters, attributed to the Washington, D.C., fire department. In its reports, ABC News Radio described the crowd as “tens of thousands.”

    Brendan Steinhauser, spokesman for FreedomWorks, said he did not know why Kibbe cited ABC News as a source.

    As a result of Kibbe’s erroneous attribution, several bloggers and commenters repeated the misinformation.

    It goes without saying — or at least ABC assumes so — that the “bloggers and commenters” repeating Kibbe’s lie were right-wingers. Their ring leader appears to have been Michelle Malkin, who was caught, as GOP Facebook blogger Sarah Palin would say, “makin’ stuff up“:

    Malkin plucked out of thin air the bogus claim that ABC News reported the 9/12 protest crowd was 2 million strong. False. Nobody at ABC News ever made that claim, and no sane observer of the D.C. event today would claim with a straight face that somehow 2 million people overtook the nation’s capitol.

  2. bravo color of change

    http://mediamatters.org/blog/200909090042

    Six new advertisers reportedly join Beck boycott, brings total to 62
    September 09, 2009 5:54 pm ET by Media Matters staff

    From a September 9 ColorofChange.org press release:

    ColorOfChange.org today confirmed that six new companies whose ads aired recently during Fox News Channel’s Glenn Beck program have pledged to not to run ads on the show going forward. The additions — Aegon, Ashley Furniture, Humana, Luxottica Retail (retail parent of LensCrafters and Pearle Vision), United States Postal Service and Wyeth Consumer Healthcare — bring the number of companies boycotting Glenn Beck to 62. ColorofChange.org launched its campaign against Beck last month after the Fox News Channel host called President Obama a “racist” who “has a deep-seated hatred for white people” during an appearance on Fox & Friends

  3. Last Monday (just a week ago!) I was enjoying the company of good people and eating a great meal.

    Since then I haven’t been having as much fun!

    Tuesday, a mere six days ago, painters came and gave me a bid on painting the kitchen, dining & hearth rooms here at my house. I accepted and they said they could get started the very next day. Every surface was to be painted — all wood including kitchen cabinets, every ceiling, every wall… So Tuesday afternoon I went into overdrive and emptied my kitchen! The promise was the kitchen would be finished by the weekend so I could ‘reload’ and they would move to the other spaces.

    For the last several days we’ve lived with the contents of the kitchen in the dining room — everywhere. Yesterday we did the reload the kitchen trick and the painters will be here in a few minutes to start in again.

    I didn’t mention the first thing accomplished was machine sanding of all wood surfaces. Oh my, does that create a mess!

    Upward on onward! This too shall pass.

    • I forgot to ask if anyone has need of Knox gelatin. I can’t right this minute think of what I used it for, and that might be the reason I ended up with two large and two small boxes of the stuff. Each time I had a need (whatever that might have been) I bought some, thinking, “who would keep that in their cabinets?” 🙂 We won’t go into spices, but I’ll tell you my daughter Tonya used ‘the google’ to learn that McCormick hasn’t packaged spices in metal tins for 15 years.

      What recipe do you think called for mustard seed? Must have needed a bunch of it too as I had two containers of the seeds, and four containers of the ground mustard. I don’t own any spices right now. We’re starting over.

      My trash can is fuller this week than most. My newly-painted kitchen cabinets not as full as they were. 🙂

      • wicked

        It used to be said gelatin was good for growing long fingernails. I used to drink Jello. Didn’t work.

        Hmmm, so many things in my life “didn’t work”. LOL

        fnord, you have my sympathies on the kitchen repaint. Scraping? Not so much. Next time give me a call, and I’ll bring a brush and a roller. 🙂

      • 6176746f6c6c65

        wicked beat me to the punch regarding Knox gelatin’s use. I understand that Jell-O doesn’t work, btw; only clear gelatin.

      • wicked

        I don’t recall ever using mustard seeds, but I do use dry ground mustard in a recipe for macaroni and cheese using a white sauce. Next time I make it to a get-together, I’ll make it. It makes such a big bowl that the only time I do make it is Thanksgiving and Christmas…and we still have leftovers. 😉

        fnord, my oldest grandson used to climb in my cabinets, take out the spices and spread the all over the house. At one point, I knew we were safe from vampires for several days.

      • wicked

        If Jello doesn’t work, that would explain the state of my nails all those years. Now I just buy fakes and glue them on. 😉

  4. congradulations are in order after 2 weeks of bitching my 12 yr old daughter emptied her bedroom trash can. She also needed a ride to an early school breakfast [tennis] I wonder if that had anything to do with it?

    Anyone interested in designing a tee shirt logo for the blog? This would be for when all 600 thousand of us march on DC we can be identified.

    snark off/ but a tee shirt would be cool

    http://www.uberprints.com/studio/

      • anniethemoose

        great idea David

        how about this using the above jpg as a model

        paririe populists and progressives
        as the top rocker
        the bulleye logo in the center

        kansas as the bottom rocker and a 70% logo in between

    • wicked

      I’ve designed 7 t-shirts for the Ditzy Chix (not to be confused with the singing group). We have ours done online at tshirts.com. Prices are good and shipping is fast.

      For a peek, if you’re interested…

      http://ditzychix.com/photos.html

      (Our names are on the back.)

      Now I’ll go check out your links. 🙂

  5. tosmarttobegop

    annie fault he reminded me of a story about my oldest, “battle of wits” was the best description at time when dealing with my son. The kids had assigned chores and my oldest at the time had the family room to clean.
    He forestalled and as much refused to do it, the final answer end in a grounding.

    For three months he did not get to go anywhere, still he refused to do it.
    Then the February night came when we came home and the family room was clean!
    He stated that in afterthought if he had realized how quick and easy it would have been he would have done it sooner!

    NOW note the above “February night”, the dead of winter and the patio which is just outside the door in the family room. It warmed up and I decided one day to go out on the patio. He had simply opened the door and every piece of trash, every item not need in the family room was laying out in the patio! He had even instead of taking the family trash can out and dumping it in the big trash had dumped it on the patio.

    This is the same son when I caught him in a lie and told him he would be punished. Countered with
    “Well the President (Clinton) lied and he was not punished!”, after the surprise I countered with then when you become President than you can lie!

    • lilacluvr

      My kids are both grown and out of the house. My grand-daughter is 3 & 1/2 yrs old and she is a handful sometimes – but she sure knows what the time out chair is for – and will do anything to avoid that.

      But, somehow, the grand-daughter gets away with just a little bit more than my own two kids did –

      Grandma calls that ‘payback’ – (ha,ha)..

    • wicked

      I have a 19-year-old and a 25-year-old that still haven’t learned. Amazingly, the younger is better than the elder. I gave up long ago.

  6. tosmarttobegop

    Children are a responsibility, grandkids are just for fun!

  7. tosmarttobegop

    I pointed this out on that other blog, but after listening to the argument that Wilson gives I figure out what is wrong though it maybe purely intentional. There are two different argument on two separate subjects.

    The Democrats are arguing that the bill bans illegals from getting tax payer dollars to get the insurance.
    Republicans are arguing that it does not have enforcement arms and that it does not ban them from using their own money to get the insurance.

    Its like one person arguing which is better Pepsi V Coke.
    The other is arguing Ford V Chevy.

    Neither side will see a common ground or understand where the other is coming from.
    One can not understand why the other is arguing cars when the subject is soft drinks and vice versa.

  8. 6176746f6c6c65

    Good analogy, TSTB; what it appears to me is that those opposing do not want illegals to be able to procure health insurance coverage regardless. Given the burden already imposed upon ERs by the un(der)insured now, this makes little to no sense.

    • wicked

      I agree! If they have the money, let them buy the insurance. And bully for them!

      If we try banning and checking IDs at the ER door, how many visiting foreigners would get health care when needed? This is all ridiculous!

      • tosmarttobegop

        What is sadly funny to me, many on the Right have a fear of a national I.D.
        Would lead to a totalitarian state, yet who now is standing up for a situation that would as much
        demand it?

        You can not just single out those of Latin decent for a check, too many naturally born and legally here.
        So it would have to apply to everyone, I have a German sir name how can it be known if I am a Native born or a German national who just speaks funny?

  9. Bad Biker

    On the other blog, one of the consistently anti-bloggers is again claiming that more than 1 million protested in DC on Saturday, despite that all of the MSM outlets including Fox state that there were 60-70 thousand.

    This is just more evidence that the truth and Con/Republicans do not get along.

    Many still claim that Joe Wilson was right – despite clear evidence to the contrary.

    Many still claim that health care will be rationed by the Federal government, despite clear evidence to the contrary.

    The list just goes on and on and on.

    This is what makes me curious: Do these people believe their lies sincerely or does it take a special brand of mental illness to knowingly lie to support one’s position?

  10. In recent months I’ve been subjected to the ‘illegal alien’ problem with regard to federal laws, and the agencies involved in enforcing those laws. The documents one must procure and the other measures that allow a person to bypass the laws are extremely easy to get and even more difficult to detect.

    Oh, btw, I go again tomorrow for my every four weeks duty.

    • 6176746f6c6c65

      Which should give little comfort to those making their demands regarding the need to prove citizenship to procure medical insurance and/or medical care, but which will be roundly ignored by them. Fnord; have fun. 🙂

  11. For instance did you ever think a real estate sign in the yard of an empty house would be an available address for a person to receive documents like a driver’s license that require an address?

    Oh, the tricks I could teach!