Wednesday, 08/26/09, Public Square

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It’s the middle of the week, hump day!  Did it go as quickly for you as it did for me?  So we’ll slide to the weekend.  Anything you’d like to talk about?



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32 responses to “Wednesday, 08/26/09, Public Square

  1. David B

    Not sure how to intervene…

    Two prominent Republicans plan to visit Kansas to help Rep. Todd Tiahrt raise money for his Senate campaign.

    Former U.S. Education Secretary William Bennett is scheduled to visit Wichita on Aug. 27. Tiahrt’s campaign says the conservative commentator will appear at a fundraising reception at the Hyatt Regency hotel.

  2. Although expected, I didn’t realize how sad I would feel about Senator Kennedy’s death. My thoughts go immediately to his life’s work and efforts to improve health care for Americans.

  3. Bad Biker

    It’s a sad day for liberals and all fair-minded Americans with the passing last night of Ted Kennedy. Although it was expected, the loss of the liberal icon hits all of us hard on the progressive side of the aisle.

    I stopped briefly this morning on the nameless blog and the Freeper-types were already working themselves into a lather. It wasn’t worth the calories to be burned by typing a response, so I left.

    I am just sorry that Ted passed before President Obama had a chance to pay him a visit. I believe that Ted and Caroline Kennedy’s endorsement of Barack was a critical turning point in the campaign.

    All in all, today is a day for reflection and a redoubling of our progressive efforts.

    Once again, the torch has been passed.

  4. lilacluvr

    We all knew this day was coming but still, it is hard to fathom the Senate without Ted Kennedy – isn’t it?

    Now watch all the cronies on the Republican side do all their moaning and crying in public about Ted Kennedy but when they get with their own kind – mean and nasty people – they will resort to calling Ted names just as before.

    I have not even ventured to go over to the nameless blog. I just don’t feel like putting myself that low into the gutter this morning. Every time I go over there – I feel the sudden need to take about 10 showers – and then the grime of nastiness and evil still lingers.

  5. Venturing to the other blog can leave a bad taste in one’s mouth, so here’s a little something to wash it out:

  6. tosmarttobegop

    I failed to mention it yesterday, I watch John McCain town hall and had to chuckle out loud.
    A woman shouted one sentence and McCain told her “we don’t shout at my town halls!”.
    SO to put it in the voice of those defending the paid protesters, “Senator McCain stifled the voice of a average American citizen just wanting to voice her concerns on health care!”.

  7. lilacluvr

    Was it also true that McCain was booed when he said Obama respected the Constitution?

    I read that somewhere and since I did not watch the video of this town hall meeting, I would really like to know. Also, did McCain defend Obama?

  8. lilacluvr

    Those paid town hall protesters are as much an average concerned American citizens as Joe the Plumber was actually a plumber.

  9. lilacluvr

    Hey I got a question about McCain’s video – when he talks about those outcome based treatment plans – isn’t he really talking about rationing care?

    Let’s take for example, end of life treatment. The outcome is going to be death so in his quest to reform health care – will he be willing to deny treatment to a terminal patient that maybe wants to continue taking their daily vitamin, high cholesterol pills, dementia pills like Aricept, because, let’s face it, these meds are not life-saving but live-sustaining. Is McCain saying he wants to do away with Medicare paying for those meds?

    And who is to say what proper outcome based treatment is the most beneficial – some private insurance company like we have today?

    I agree with most of what McCain says we need to do to reform health care (but I do believe we should keep the ability for injured people to sue)- but exactly when do Republicans plan to tackle this issue?

    They had power from 1994 to 2006 and total power from 2000 to 2006 – and now they are concerned about reforming health care?

  10. I am having a crisis of conscience; I was wanting to get some feedback on from other bloggers. My son (who is 17 and a senior in high school) likes this Asian girl (who is 16 and a junior in his high school). She is from Viet Nam, I am pretty sure, and her parents are real traditional and strict. She is forbidden to date any one.

    My son and this girl end up sneaking around to see each other. Today my son calls me and wants to know if I could come and give him a jump, because he borrowed a friend’s car and its battery was dead. I was unhappy about him driving this friend’s car, but when I found my son with this girl at the Dairy Queen, I was even more unhappy.

    I gave them a jump and my son asked me to call into the school because he knew he would be late. I said I would. I called the school and told them both kids would be late and why. They will get unexcused absences – which is actually good as far as I am concerned.

    I think this girl’s parents are unrealistic in what they are trying to enforce, and they are not doing a very good job in terms of enforcement.

    But today, I felt like I was party to something wrong. This girl is her parents’ kid and they may be unrealistic, but their wishes need to be respected, too.

    I think I am grateful for all that don’t know – which may be going on…

    • tosmarttobegop

      Iggy I think I would go with the majority here, Whether you agree with her parents or not is not the issue.
      If you switched roles would you become upset if they were allowing you son to do something you outlawed? If they were undermining your parenting, my parents even though they did not agree with my best Friends parents religious beliefs. They were total Fundies, my parent still told me to respect their beliefs and to do nothing to undermine it.

      LOL My dad was shocked when he finally found out that my friend was a pot head. He said he was always worried I would be a bad influence on my friend. But it turned out the other way around.

      • lilacluvr

        I was in that Fundie crowd for several years and the really bad kids were usually the preacher’s kids and the deacon’s kids.

        I graduated from a private fundamental Baptist college and everyone knew if you wanted liquor or drugs – you went to the College President’s son – he had the entire campus as his turf.

        The ironic thing was, it was strictly forbidden on campus to play any Elvis, Beatles or even the Carpenters music because it was considered ‘evil’ but yet the campus drug dealer was right under daddy’s nose the entire time.

        I’ve always wondered, did daddy not really know the truth or was he getting his ‘cut’ of the business?

  11. Tough situation!

    However, as a parent I think you first have to respect her parent’s rights to make rules about their minors life.

    Will the school notify her parents of the unexcused absence / tardiness? Will your involvement come out as a result? Will that appear as another ‘strike’ against your son in their eyes?

    Do the parents allow their daughter to have friends — maybe chaperoned? I know this isn’t what either teenager has in mind, but …

    WOW! It’s hard enough to be a parent without having to deal with diverse cultures too!

  12. 6176746f6c6c65

    Tough situation, iggy.

    One of my daughters had a friend (female, Cambodian) whose parents were of a similar bent. She (the friend) was allowed to attend Prom as a Senior only in the company of female classmates; no males were allowed to be in the group, although obviously there were males present at the dance. She also was prohibited from dating, etc., which resulted in her being placed under “house arrest” when the parents learned of her involvement with a schoolmate. Her parents took her to school; were there at lunch to monitor her; and picked her up after school was dismissed for the remainder of her Senior year.

    As far as the parents being informed of her unexcused absence, I don’t know what the policy is for the school (it varies, depending upon the building). They may well be aware of the fact she was absent, due to the automated notification system some buildings use, but this would not implicate iggy or his son directly (although the daughter darned sure might when she gets home).

  13. You all might want to check this out. Trying to get a march for health care reform started:

  14. tosmarttobegop


    If you are 30 or older you will think this is hilarious!!!!

    When I was a kid, adults used to bore me to tears with their tedious diatribes about how hard things were. When they were growing up; what with walking Twenty-five miles to school every morning….
    Uphill… barefoot…
    BOTH ways

    Yadda, yadda, yadda

    And I remember promising myself that when I grew up, there was no way in hell I was going to lay a bunch of crap like that on my kids about how hard I had it and how easy they’ve got it!
    But now that… I’m over the ripe old age of thirty, I can’t help but look around and notice the youth of today.

    You’ve got it so easy! I mean, compared to my childhood, you live in a damn Utopia!
    And I hate to say it, but you kids today, you don’t know how good you’ve got it!

    I mean, when I was a kid we didn’t have The Internet. If we wanted to know something, we had to go to the damn library and look it up ourselves, in the card catalogue!!
    There was no email!! We had to actually write somebody a letter – with a pen!
    Then you had to walk all the way across the street and put it in the mailbox and it would take, like, a week to get there! Stamps were 10 cents!
    Child Protective Services didn’t care if our parents beat us. As a matter of fact, the parents of all my friends also had permission to kick our ass! Nowhere was safe!

    There were no MP3′ s or Napsters! If you wanted to steal music, you had to hitchhike to the damn record store and shoplift it yourself!
    Or you had to wait around all day to tape it off the radio and the DJ would usually talk over the beginning and @#*% it all up! There were no CD players! We had tape decks in our car. We’d play our favorite tape and “eject” it when finished and the tape would come undone. Cause – that’s how we rolled, dig?

    We didn’t have fancy crap like Call Waiting! If you were on the phone and somebody else called they got a busy signal, that’s it!

    And we didn’t have fancy Caller ID either!
    When the phone rang, you had no idea who it was! It could be your school, your mom, your boss, your bookie, your drug dealer, a collections agent, you just didn’t know!!! You had to pick it up and take your chances, mister!

    We didn’t have any fancy Sony Playstation video games with high-resolution 3-D graphics! We had the Atari 2600! With games like ‘Space Invaders’ and ‘Asteroids’. Your guy was a little square! You actually had to use your imagination!! And there were no multiple levels or screens, it was just one screen… forever!
    And you could never win.. The game just kept getting harder and harder and faster and faster until you died! Just like LIFE!

    You had to use a little book called a TV Guide to find out what was on! You were screwed when it came to channel surfing! You had to get off your ass and walk over to the TV to change the channel! NO REMOTES!!!
    There was no Cartoon Network either! You could only get cartoons on Saturday Morning. Do you hear what I’m saying!?! We had to wait ALL WEEK for cartoons, you spoiled little rat-bastards!

    And we didn’t have microwaves, if we wanted to heat something up we had to use the stove! Imagine that!
    That’s exactly what I’m talking about! You kids today have got it too easy. You’re spoiled. You guys wouldn’t have lasted five minutes back in 1980 or before!

    The Over 30 Crowd

    • If living conditions don’t stop improving in this country, we’re going to run out of humble beginnings for our great men.
      – Russell P. Askue

  15. Sarah Palin continues to drift toward the fringe: The former governor of Alaska took to Facebook on Wednesday to encourage her friends to watch Glenn Beck. “Glenn Beck is doing an extraordinary job this week walking America behind the scenes of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue and outlining who is actually running the White House,” Palin wrote. “Monday night he asked us to invite one friend to watch; tonight I invite all my friends to watch.” Beck has faced a boycott recently due to his allegation that President Obama has a “deep-seated hatred of white people.”

  16. tosmarttobegop

    We all swear that we will never be our parents, the same sex one is always the worst.
    My dad use to when ever he was trying to make a point would push his chin out and roll his eyes toward the ceiling. I swear he looked so stupid while doing it and I would never do that with my own kids.

    Yepper, one night while lecturing my son, I noticed the ceiling was in my eye sight! I did a mental check upon my chin and it was pushed out! I felt so stupid and ever since I do a content mental check on my eyes and chin.

    As for comparing what I had and what they had…. Man I wish I had this cool crap when I was young!

    • lilacluvr

      I find myself developing the same mannerisms of my mother and the older I get, the more similarities seem to appear.

      I wonder if it is something about the same sex one syndrome?

      Maybe it is so ingrained into our psyche from childhood that we just tend to emulate when we reach our parents’ age?

  17. tosmarttobegop

    I told all my kids if they can not stand the same sex parent of someone they are dating. Forget a commitment, for in 20 years they will be living with that parent.

  18. lilacluvr

    jammer – please keep us posted as to what Sarah Palin is saying on her Facebook…since you are now officially of her BFF’s.

    Like, totally dude, she rocks……

    Do you think I can get on her Facebook? I can come up with a bunch of one liners she might enjoy reading…

    I wonder if she has a ‘death panel’ for comments she does not like?