Friday, 08/21/09, Public Square

BlueTGIF-main_FullEven tho I’m retired and you would think every day is like the next, I still look forward to Fridays!  Probably not nearly as much as those who work.  So it’s here!  The weekend is so close you can smell it!  The rains are gone, you can be outside cutting all that grass that grew so high because of all the rain…  OK, enough of the negative — play golf, take a walk, take a drive, relax and enjoy!

fnord

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28 responses to “Friday, 08/21/09, Public Square

  1. You just have to rub that retired thing in, don’t you?
    Four more years and I’ll join you!

    Nice to see the president pushing back and pressing the issue on health care…and doing it on conservative radio?! Is that allowed? I thought the last guy established that presidents only talk to people who voted for him.

    • It took a long time to get to this retired place.

      Good morning world! I slept in for the first time in a very long time (didn’t get up until after nine! WOW!). Griffin dressed quietly, closed the door to the bedroom so the two cats and dog couldn’t disturb me (thank you!). Now this is what retirement is all about. 🙂

  2. WmacW

    Unfortunately Friday isn’t really Friday for me anymore 🙂 A mother’s job is never done, ha ha ha! Today we meet with Monster’s preschool teacher – she does a meeting with the child and the parents before classes start and today is our day. And Monday is the first day of school. I simply cannot wait.

    I am eager to see this healthcare debate resolved. I’m tired of people worried only about themselves and not this country as a whole – I feel that is how we wound up in our current mess the way it is. I do love how the Republicans are now blaming the economy on Obama – first it was Clinton’s fault, and now it’s him. Never Bush, who had 8 years to get us where we are… Some people will never pull their heads out of the sand, I think. My aunt is convinced Obama will be the ruin of this country (I’m pretty sure she’s closet racist), my mom thinks he is disrespectful to the country (stupid internet rumors) and my mother-in-law is convinced he is a terrorist. I just don’t understand how othewise intelligent people can blind themselves to truth…

  3. Blahahaaha as you head into Friday I am heading into Saturday. So I guess I have already lived your day and have moved to the next. Which means I have already lived your tomorrow. But let me just say , it was really good, you will enjoy it! 🙂 .

  4. tosmarttobegop

    Why did MSNBC distort and twist? Fox I understand since for the most part the truth and reality does not support their opinion or position. I had heard within a day that the man carrying the AR15 was Black, supporter of the 2nd amendment are not just White. So him being black is not that special.

    But after a few days it was striking me odd that all the other armed protesters at the Phoenix protest where being seen with a wider shot. But the guy with the rifle was not being shown, he was shown with a close image of the rifle and often the same image repeated over and over like some attempt at a sixties special effect.

    Then it was being implied that those protesting were doing so because of racist feelings.
    For some time that has been implied as the reasoning for any protesting of the President.
    I agree that for some it is his color that is more a disagreement then his political party.

    But this done by MSNBC was racist and distortion for the purpose of prefabricating a impression.
    As I said it can be expect from Fox News as they can not be honest and truthful because the facts and reality does not often support they opinion and position. But would MSNBC do this? Bad on you MSNBC!

  5. lilacluvr

    I also read somewhere (I think on HuffingtonPost blog?) that this guy did it as a radio publicity stunt?

    I agree that some of these Republicans are just downright mad that a black man has made into the White House.

    But to keep harping on the racial issue is not helping any of us, is it?

    I had wished from the start of the campaign that the media would focus more on the fact that Obama is half white and half black – but I can understand why they would emphasize the black half more – because it was a historic event taking place.

    But with the GOP being dwindled down to 22% and most of their support is coming from the Southern States – the fact that Obama is black is big.

    But I think the fact that he is half white and half black is even more troubling. I lived in Tennessee for several years and the issue of biracial couples was a hot one – it was looked down on – by both sides!

    • tosmarttobegop

      It is sickening, the conservatives using the race issue to gain support with racist and older whites. And the Liberals using the race issue to discount any criticism of the President. both are being amoral and shameful.
      We have a choice I guess, we can dismiss it all like GMC did once as they are being politicians so why be upset about it. Or we can stand and shout to them that it is not acceptable and to get in line.
      I fired off a e-mail to several of the MSNBC talking head about it in fact it is what I posted here.
      Even Ed who reminds me so much of Thunderbird.

  6. lilacluvr

    I think it is understood that if you want a liberal slant – you listen to MSNBC and if you want the conservative slant – you listen to Fox.

    And somewhere in the middle lies the truth?

  7. I remind all of us who can’t help but feel discouraged when we hear the outrageous misinformation and the hype from every media outlet — Americans have been given the opportunity to see the Republicans for what they are. Jim DeMint tipped their hand when he said they wanted to kill health care to get to Obama.

    We’ve seen the birthers, the disruptors, the gun-toting gun nuts, the liars… As important is to remember the Republican Party in their rush to defeat the Obama presidency has failed to have a single idea, a single alternate solution, or any candidate who can win at the national level! They are a regional party and the only states where they have numbers wouldn’t stand for a candidate who might attract Independents and moderates.

    Keep it all in perspective, take a deep breath, pass the popcorn.

  8. lilacluvr

    Do you think, as I do, that there are some Republicans who truly do want to help reform our health care system?

    But I don’t think these Republicans have much sway in the GOP as we are seeing today. There are too many loudmouthed Radical Right Wingers who are bellyaching for the responsible Republicans to even get a word of wisdom into the debate.

    I still remember the beating that Specter, Snowe and the other Republican lady (I can’t remember her name now) that voted for the stimulus bill got from the hands of their own fellow Republicans.

    And then with Colin Powell and other prominent Republicans coming out and speaking against Rush and his legions of winged-monkeys, I am left wondering if there aren’t some Republicans that will be willing to vote with Democrats to pass significant health care reform? Especially those who are retiring?

    Or am I just wishful thinking and as Barney Frank puts – what planet do I spend the most time on?

    • Well, there’s you and I. 🙂 Both Republicans, both want true meaningful health-care reform.

    • 6176746f6c6c65

      Wasn’t it Collins (the other Senator from Maine)? She’s in a tight race, IIRC, for 2010 per the polls; and, she and her fellow Senator from Maine would be called Socialists by the controlling forces in the Kansas GOP, not only on this issue but many others, too.

    • tosmarttobegop

      I watch CSPAN quite a bit and notice that most of the time if a reasonable Republican does get a chance to talk in front of a camera it is later in the evening. I can not honestly say they remain reasonable all the time.
      But you made the point they are usually pushed out of the light and not seen in public.

  9. lilacluvr

    I was listening to Congressman Weinger (sp?) from New York . He is the guy that brought the bill to a vote to make Republicans vote against Medicare and, of course, they did not.

    This guy makes perfect sense – the public option is nothing more than making Medicare available to all Americans. And if people cannot get insurance on their own in the private sector, then why can’t we have a place where these people can get insurance?

    What really gets me is that these same town hall protesters against government run health care are on Medicare and don’t want their health insurance changed.

    St. Ronald Reagan hated Medicare and ranted against it but yet the very same people who worship Reagan today are fighting to keep their Medicare that their beloved saint hated – it makes no sense.

    Other than to say their logic is – they have theirs and to hell with anybody else?

  10. lilacluvr

    fnord – If I get my call through to Rush, how many of those winged-monkeys do you think I can clip their wings?

    I still think we should have gone on those bus trips to the town hall meetings. That would have been one rock’n’rolling bus with us on board.

    What do you think?

    • It would take alcohol or drugs in great quantities if I had to be enclosed on a bus with them. I think I prefer keeping my distance — watching but not getting too close. I love going to the zoo, but appreciate the bars and moats and various structures that keep the animals separated from the humans.

  11. jammer5

    We all knew sooner or later one of the gun nuts would whip it out:

    The Republican Party chairman of Boise County in Idaho was arrested Thursday for aggravated assault after he pulled a gun on a man whose house he was photographing.

    Charles McAffee, 33, was among Idaho’s anti-tax tea-party activists, and is a member of the Idaho Republican Party Central Committee. He was arrested after pulling a handgun on a homeowner whose mortgage his employer sought to photograph for being delinquent. His employer is a contractor for Wells Fargo.

    Wells Fargo called McAffee’s behavior “horrific and absolutely inexcusable.” Via AP:

    According to police in the Boise suburb of Meridian, resident Robert Lutes called officers just before 5:30 p.m. Tuesday to report McAffee had pointed a .357 Magnum handgun at him during a verbal confrontation. McAffee acknowledged he pointed the gun at Lutes, according to the police account.

    “I’m unarmed, I’m an old man,” Lutes, 51, told The Associated Press on Thursday. “I’m trying to find out why he’s taking pictures of my house. I said, ‘Knock on my door, let me know what you want.’ Then, I think he’s reaching for his business card and he pulls out a concealed weapon and I think he’s going to blow my head off.”

    Idaho’s Republican Party told the Associated Press the arrest of one of its leaders was a “personal matter.”

    “It’s not a party matter,” Jonathan Parker, state GOP director in Boise, told AP.

    One of McAffee’s supporters said the homeowner’s account was false:

    “McAffee brandished the weapon to de-escalate the conflict,” he asserted.

    Yes, you read that right: he pulled a gun to de-escalate the conflict.
    http://rawstory.com/blog/2009/08/idaho-gop-leader-tea-party-arrested/

  12. tosmarttobegop

    Yes, you read that right: he pulled a gun to de-escalate the conflict.

    It is not the first time I have heard such twisted logic, I backed Sheriff officer once on a man and woman fighting and shots fired. Turned out a brother and sister had gotten into a argument and the brother had walked outside and started taking pot shots at a power pole in the front yard. It was in the middle of nowhere so little chance of a miss hitting anyone.

    While we were talking to the brother he turned enough for me to see the 45 he had stuffed in the back of his pants. I warned the Deputy and he scolded the guy while taking the gun from the waist band.
    We asked to speak with the sister and she came out to talk to us.
    After we explained why we were there, she said a equally twisted logic statement.
    To her brother, “I wish you had shot and killed me… They would be arresting you right now!”.
    Ahh them Okies!

  13. tosmarttobegop

    Now a joke: two old men are setting around and one said to the other, “Slim I am 83 years old and I’m just full of aches and pains. I know you’re about my age… How do you feel?

    Slim said, “ I feel just like a newborn baby”.

    “Really like a newborn baby?”

    “Yep, No hair, no teeth and I think I just wet my pants!”.

  14. tosmarttobegop

    A old man is setting in his rocker on the front poach, when his wife shuffles out the front door and as she passes him on her way to her rocker she haul off and slaps him across his face then continues to her rocker.

    He sat there in shock for a few seconds then asked, “What was that for?”.

    She sniped, “That was for forty years of bad sex!”.

    Both fell silent then finally the old man got up and shuffled into the house.

    He came back out and shuffled over to her and slapped her across the face. Then went to his rocker and sat down.

    She asked, “what was that for?

    He said, “That is for knowing the difference!”.

    My wife brought me a whole sheet of old jokes. Said I could relate to them.

  15. David B

    Holy Shit!

    William Calley, the former Army lieutenant convicted on 22 counts of murder in the infamous My Lai Massacre in Vietnam, publicly apologized for the first time this week while speaking in Columbus.
    “There is not a day that goes by that I do not feel remorse for what happened that day in My Lai,” Calley told members of the Kiwanis Club of Greater Columbus on Wednesday. His voice started to break when he added, “I feel remorse for the Vietnamese who were killed, for their families, for the American soldiers involved and their families. I am very sorry.”

    In March 1968, U.S. soldiers gunned down hundreds of civilians in the Vietnamese hamlet of My Lai. The Army at first denied, then downplayed the event, saying most of the dead were Vietcong. But in November 1969, journalist Seymour Hersh revealed what really happened and Calley was court martialed and convicted of murder.

  16. David B

    Americans for Prosperity may rally tomorrow at noon at
    Representative Todd Tiahrt (R – 04)
    155 North Market Street, Suite 400
    Wichita, KS 67202

    Anyone interested in going to support reforms?

  17. tosmarttobegop

    I have not heard is it suppose to rain tomorrow? I would have to ride the bike and I have gotten old and stopped liking riding in the rain.