Thursday, 08/06/09, Public Square

compromise-donkeyAt least we can think, and figure out compromises!

Is there any topic you especially want to disucss today?



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36 responses to “Thursday, 08/06/09, Public Square

  1. lilacluvr

    Over on the Opinion Line, I just got finished telling a staunch Republican how the Republicans wasted their time while in total power control.

    This man was actually trying to say the Democrats were being the uncompromising ones in the last 8 years.

    I also told him that Republicans have only themselves to blame for Obama’s presidency due to the fact that if they had done what was right and not all that greed and arrogance – they would still be in power.

    Republicans hate to lose but to think they actually helped the first black president to be elected – that is one thing they just cannot handle hearing.

    Why am I reminded of the famous Jack Nicholson line – You can’t handle the truth!

  2. I admire you and all others who can continue in the attempt to bring reason to the conversation. I’ve found unreasonable people who are possessed of the propaganda they’ve been fed don’t want to listen and, as usual, there is only ONE ‘right’ way — theirs.

    Secretary Kathleen Sebelius explained what we should be talking about in an article published yesterday in the Washington Post.

    — snip —

    “The current health-care system gives insurance companies all the power. They get to pick and choose who gets a policy. They can deny coverage because of a preexisting condition. They can offer coverage only at exorbitant rates — or offer coverage so thin that it’s no coverage at all. Americans are left to worry about whether they’ll get laid off and lose their insurance or wake up from surgery with a $10,000 bill because they didn’t read the fine print on their policy.

    By giving Americans choices, health reform will switch the roles. Americans will get peace of mind and insurance companies will start getting nervous. They will know that if they don’t deliver a great value, their customers will flee. So they will start offering better coverage. “

  3. lilacluvr

    Anyone who has dealt with health insurance hoop-jumping should already know these facts, but as fnord pointed out – there are those who will simply not listen to reason.

  4. tosmarttobegop

    Its easy, on that other blog I have taken to being a hit and run poster: Say what you mean and leave it. I may not go back till later this evening or not until tomorrow morning. Here is something I left on the local papers website addressing the Bill Cliton return of the reporters. The last part about talking to fools applies to talking to partisan fools too:

    How much cheaper could we get off than a photo op? No death, no destruction and no millions of dollars!
    John Bolton Neo-Conservative and former ambassador to the U.N. wanted millions killed and half the world destroyed rather then to talk to the North Koreans. How brave and insightful these Chicken Hawks are with others blood and wealth.

    As to talking, on occasion I found myself talking to a fool. It does not change me. Foolishness is not something that I find infectious except for those times when I am being foolish myself. Then it is a matter of two fools talking with each other, being foolish is a choice.

  5. lilacluvr

    I agree tosmart, I like to hit and run also – it drives them nuts! When I go back later to see what happened – the usual suspects are so angry after a few hours that they did not get their ‘showfight’ that they are about foaming at the mouth.

    I have come to believe there are some people that just love to be obnoxious, mean and nasty.

    Did I just hear fnord say the name – okobserver, our favorite grannie?

    • My most loyal fan! If I make a post she is there to call me names — I am very important! Just how many bloggers have such a loyal following?

      • She doesn’t know I’m a conservative buffoon! 😉

      • On days, like this, where it’s rainy, and can’t play golf, etc., I do like to get em riled up over there. Some even claim they won’t read me anymore because I play nasty (like fnords favorite). I can’t put into words how much that hurts me . . . . well, okay, it doesn’t hurt me.

  6. G-stir

    Is it really true she sleeps hanging up in a barn loft?

  7. I called Tiahrt’s local office today to encourage him to support health care reform. The woman who answered the phone assured me everyone wants health-care reform, it’s just a matter of how it’s reformed that is of concern. She said Tiahrt understands as he has a family too. I told her to give me the opportunity to enjoy the same benefits he and his family do, and made sure she knew that I understand those benefits are subsidized by tax dollars. I let her know it isn’t enough for my tax dollars to buy coverage for him and his family.

  8. Sounds like the health-care reform discussion is stimulating the economy. I read that millions are being spent on television commercials.

    So when you pay the inflated costs at the pharmacy, or in premiums you can know those companies are helping to support the media.

    The rest of the country may go down the tubes but there will be media coverage of each step of our decline.

  9. Bad Biker

    A few days ago, I made a boo-boo on the “nameless blog – I confessed that I scrolled over most of the posts from wingers like JJ, Am Way, Reggie and KS/OK Grannie and that I also ignore posts by a slew of others.

    That pissed ’em off.

    Of course, now they all say that they are going to ignore me OR I am closed-minded because I don’t honor their POV.

    Oh, well…………………………

  10. lilacluvr

    Bad biker…don’t you know you violated their most holy creed of all creeds? Thou shalt not dismiss the Conservatives as non-important because they will have their God strike you down.

    Remember, they have C Street on their side and God has chosen them to be your masters – so like it or else!

    sarcasm/now off

  11. lilacluvr

    They sound like a bunch of grade school kids as to whose mommy can beat up everybody elses’ mommy – don’t they?

  12. G-stir

    Can’t you just imagine Palin taking over Billy May’s spot?

    ” Use TUNDRA Brand Moose Floss; it’s so good we use it at the igloo!! My dress is made from recycled Moose floss. You ‘ betchum.”

    • “Just one swipe with our magic rag, and every bad thing ever made up about you just disappears.

      But wait! With each rag, you get a free copy of my new book, “The Palinator Defeats the Witches of Wassila”.

      All you pay is extra shipping and handling.”

  13. I noted the other day on the other blog how Hank and Nathan rarely post any more. Hank had some pretty unattractive Sunday pissing contests with Jay to the point that I was feeling embarrassed for both of them. After that Hank showed up less; I wonder if “mama” pulled the plug on his computer (she is a wise woman if that is true…)

  14. Sotomayor confirmed. You go, girl!

  15. Yes, everyone is supposed to be “open-minded” to “Intelligent Design” too. Makes me wonder if they have their minds open to the possibility that Scientologists are right and that the earth was started by aliens from outer space?

  16. If these numbers are correct, Sotomajor won pretty easily, too:


  17. G-stir

    Doesn’t the WEB look like a day-care facility for behaviorally challenged brats?

  18. For anybody wondering, I’ve been spending all my time at the ICU with my Dad. I believe the worst is over, and he may survive once again!
    Still many problems. MRSA is just one of them.

    • Thank you for the news. I can’t bring myself to say good news even tho you’ve said the worst is over — we know how serious MRSA is. All my best thoughts will be with you, your Dad and Mom and all the family!

      If you need to talk, rant, rave, sing, visit, get away — you’ve got a bunch of friends here willing to listen, yell or sing with you.

    • Bad Biker

      Our thoughts and prayers are with you, your Dad and your family, Trace. We will be there for you. To steal a line, ” just call my name, I’ll be there.”

      Peace be with you, brother.

      • I’ll keep you all in mind. Please please be sure to see to yourself in the midst of taking care of him and your family. You can’t help if you run the batteries too far down.

  19. David B

    A look back at the collected works of John Hughes.

  20. tosmarttobegop

    I was at the grocery store this evening and saw a combo bumper stick that send a chill down my spin!
    They had taken a Bush/Cheney sticker and laid a McCain/Palin over it so it read:
    “Palin/ Cheney”. I was so tempted to wait and ask them “why was your original choice of Hitler already die?”.

    • I agree, tstb — that’s scary!

      Americans aren’t that stupid. At least not enough of them.

      And does anyone think Cheney would play second fiddle to a woman? The only reason he was VP under bush the lesser was he knew he could pull those strings. Palin isn’t any smarter than bush, but she is much more ambitious.

  21. annie moose

    Found this in my blog travels good for a smile

    (via JWT) Judy Wallman, a professional genealogy researcher in southern California, was doing some personal work on her own family tree. She discovered that Harry (senator (D) from Nevada ) Reid’s great-great uncle, Remus Reid, was hanged for horse stealing and train robbery in Montana in 1889. Both Judy and Harry Reid share this common ancestor.

    The only known photograph of Remus shows him standing on the gallows in Montana territory.

    On the back of the picture Judy obtained during her research is this inscription:
    Remus Reid, horse thief, sent to Montana Territorial Prison 1885, escaped 1887, robbed the Montana Flyer six times. Caught by Pinkerton detectives, convicted and hanged in 1889.

    So Judy recently e-mailed Senator Harry Reid for information about their mutual great-great uncle.

    Believe it or not, Harry Reid’s staff sent back the following biographical sketch for her genealogy research:

    “Remus Reid was a famous cowboy in the Montana Territory. His business empire grew to include acquisition of valuable equestrian assets and intimate dealings with the Montana railroad. Beginning in 1883, he devoted several years of his life to government service, finally taking leave to resume his dealings with the railroad. In 1887, he was a key player in a vital investigation run by the renowned Pinkerton Detective Agency. In 1889, Remus passed away during an important civic function held in his honor when the platform upon which he was standing collapsed.”