Thursday, 07/23/09, Public Square

taxcutsforeverythingThis is the thread you decide the topic to discuss, this thread is for free-thinking people to toss around real ideas and real solutions.

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10 responses to “Thursday, 07/23/09, Public Square

  1. Now that Walter Cronkite has passed on, who is America’s most trusted newscaster?

    Katie Couric — 7%

    Charlie Gibson — 19%

    Jon Stewart — 44%

    Brian Williams — 29%

    There’s an interactive map at TIME — hold your mouse over individual states to see how those polled from that state voted.

  2. annie moose

    Here’s something new to stress over. I grow alot of plants. They are mostly flowers with a small container garden of veggies thrown in for good measure. I have been doing this for years. This year I have noticed a large drop in the bee population.

    Here’s a snip from an organic veggie site
    GE= Genetic Engineered

    “She cited a disturbing development about honey bees in the US. “Millions of these insects have disappeared over the last half year, their hives are empty. Bees are used as pollinators for various crops and the value that they generate in the US is estimated at over USD14 billion per year”. The problem is so severe that it has been called the Colony Collapse Disorder (CCD). “Nobody knows why the bees are dying. There is evidence though that GE crops contribute to this, in particular insect resistant crops producing the Bt-toxin. Though healthy bees do not seem to be affected by Bt pollen, a scientist called Hans-Hinrich Kaatz in Germany has found that bees infested with parasites and fed with Bt pollen were affected and died at a high rate. Beekeepers have for years reported that honeybees suffer from high rates of parasites and diseases. As reported last week in a German journal [Der Spiegel], this resembles new evidence that Bt pollen is a contributing factor in the death of the bees. The areas where the bees have disappeared have a lot of Bt crops being grown there. We don’ t think this is a coincidence. No one would ever have thought that this could have been an outcome of Bt and yet here we are. Not only do we not know exactly how this interaction happened, we don’t know how to deal with it or stop it or even if we can.”

    • lilacluvr

      I’ve been watching some shows about the bee problem and it scares me to think that something as small as a bee could be so vital to our existence. When we are talking about growing crops, then this is a big deal.

      Of course, some people will equate this with
      Global Warming and think liberals are just getting ‘wigged out’ again over something trivial.

      But how trivial is it when 14 billion dollars is at stake?

  3. jammer5

    I don’t usually say anything about the tube, but last night I saw a performance the transcended entertainment. I watch So you think you can dance. It’s always been one of my favorites. Watching dancers do their routines, and the choreography involved, has always been very entertaining to me.

    Last night there was a routine choreographed by Tyce Diorio, and danced by Kayla and Ade. The routine was about a woman who was told she had breast cancer. Kayla had to show all the emotions a woman goes through when told that, and Ade had to show them as well as her partner. The whole thing took on a surreal atmosphere, and was mesmerizing, to say the least. I don’t think there was a dry eye in the house, including me.

    I can honestly say I’ve never seen anything in my life that moved me the way that performance did. Nigel, the usually stoic judge, had a difficult time keeping it together when he judged the routine, and Kay simply lost it, having lost her father recently to cancer. Just an unbelievably awesome performance. I hope others here caught it as well.

    • lilacluvr

      I don’t usually watch this dancing show but I was channel surfing and caught the last part of it.

      Being a cancer survivor, I immediately related to these dancers and found a connection that was very spiritual. It touched my heart and isn’t that what the arts are for – reaching people through artistic mediums and making a difference in the world?

  4. jammer5

    Tell me this doesn’t piss you off concerning the huevos of the college students applauding Woo.

    • tosmarttobegop

      How would it make you feel if tomorrow morning you awoke to find out that the majority had decided that stoning children for disobeying was OK? What would be your first thing to do? Try to figure out how to check to see if you awoke on another planet? Try to find out when the world went so crazy?
      Feel totally alone amongst strangers who you feel you could never understand?

      The fact that John Woo could get a job teaching seem impossible in the first place. That he could find willing support among young people makes me wonder if somehow the self destruction of the human race is near? The truest sign of insanity is thinking you maybe the only sane person in the world.
      We know we are not the only sane people in the world, now we just have to question how many are left?

  5. lilacluvr

    I saw this video too. Are people so desensitized to violence that they just don’t care – as long as it happens to someone ‘over there’.

    The majority of our current society has never experienced real terror in the fact that people come to your door, drag you out to beat you, send you to some secret prison or shoot you down – all in the name of politics.

    I think most of us feel relatively safe in the knowledge that the government is not out to get us or that we are being watched with our every move – or am I wrong in this assumption?

    As far as these college students applauding Woo – don’t you think on some level they knew what they were getting when they signed up for the class? They knew who the proffessor was, so what surprise would it be to find out he endorses torture?

  6. Just for fun (well, OK, maybe a bit of satisfaction too).

    “Palin’s Resignation: The Edited Version
    If you watched Sarah Palin’s resignation speech, you know one thing: her high-priced speechwriters moved back to the Beltway long ago. Just how poorly constructed was the governor’s holiday-weekend address? We asked V.F.’s red-pencil-wielding executive literary editor, Wayne Lawson, together with representatives from the research and copy departments, to whip it into publishable shape. Here is the colorful result.”

    http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2009/07/palin-speech-edit-200907?currentPage=1