PATRICK J. BUCHANAN ARGUES WHITE MEN ARE IMPORTANT TOO!

Watching Buchanan on the Rachel show last night I sat there a gasp listening to him.

Citing it was white men who ratified the Constitution and white men who died fighting for the freedom of the country and its people, that white men fought at Gettysburg and throughout the Civil War — it was white men who formed this country into the greatest nation in the world.  That indeed white men are due the credit and are entitled to the consideration.  He sounded more like what you might hear at a Klan meeting  justifying the stance of white superiority.

He all but denied the contributions of women and minorities who also fought and died, those who struggled in the same efforts to form this nation. When Rachel pointed out that all but a select few of the Supreme Court were white men throughout the history of the United States, Buchanan stated that is as it should be since it was white men who created the country.

Buchanan stated his objection to Sotomayor was she is a affirmative action selection and nothing more.  He contends President Obama passed over many others who were better qualified, that her selection was based solely on the facts she is a woman and a minority. Buchanan thinks her selection is sexism and racism in action.   His opinions aren’t, her selection is!  I disagree with him as she is well qualified due to her experience and education.

I will agree with him that yes, there have been times where better qualified white men have been passed over for less qualified minorities and women. It is the fatal aspect of the way that affirmative action has been enacted — placing the real value of the person on the color of their skin or their gender.  This is not different then the way that affirmative action was meant to correct.  In the case of Sotomayor it was a win-win in my opinion, she is more than a brown store mannequin.

But I have seen the worst possible outcomes in other cases. In those cases it would have been better to have just paid them to stay at home and still be able to claim them as one of the category that was to be filled. There was no difference by having them come to work.

Buchanan was stating his truths but he was wrong in how he was citing his facts. Minorities and women have been a valuable asset to this country. Not just adding color or babies to the building of this nation.

The color of ones skin is only the outer aspect of a person and the real fault or value it what is maintained within. The gender of a person is not the deciding factor of one’s contribution or is more than window dressing.  My youngest son is a far better cook then my daughter but then again my daughter is the best at financial matters in the family. Gender does not limit or enhance a person’s natural abilities. The color of skin does not dictate one’s manner or actions.  In most cases it is the person that dictates their manner and action.

Racism and sexism are wrong no matter which way it goes, I do not see a minority or a woman as a threat to my future. Buchanan missed the point he was trying to make by the way he stated it.

tosmarttobegop

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25 responses to “PATRICK J. BUCHANAN ARGUES WHITE MEN ARE IMPORTANT TOO!

  1. lilacluvr

    I wonder if Pat Buchanan believes in the first Thanksgiving where a bunch of Indians basically saved Pat’s precious white men’s butts from starvation? And then what did the great white men do to the Indians as they spread across the country – took their land and put them on reservations!

    How very Christian of them.

    Pat Buchanan seems like a bitter, old, white man with a big mouth that likes to yell. I swear, have you ever heard Pat Buchanan not yell when asked something on one of those shows?

    • wicked

      Not to mention those NA were slaughtered by the white men.

      Yeah, we have such a great track record.

  2. There’s never been a time in our country’s history that white men haven’t been important, and treated preferentially.

    tstb, you say, “I will agree with him that yes, there have been times where better qualified white men have been passed over for less qualified minorities and women.” I say there have also have been times when the better qualified white man has been passed over for another white man! There have been, and will always be, people chosen for qualities having nothing to do with skills and competence. Some present themselves better, are able to ‘bs’ those making hiring decisions.

    I gather from your thread intro that you know of times when a person of a minority race or a woman was hired just to fill a quota. I say that doesn’t happen! If it does happen, it doesn’t happen often enough to be a factor!

    With regard to the Republican Party and racism — the fact is WHITE PEOPLE won’t be the majority in the United States for many more years! I wonder how the white men will handle being a minority?

    • wicked

      Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it?

      Seems to be holding true for the greedy. 😉

  3. lilacluvr

    If the current GOP leadership is any indication, I don’t think white men will handle being a minority very well.

    But what gets me is these same white men are the ones who are all for giving tax breaks and subsidies to Big Business.

    And exactly what is driving the current need for minorities – usually Hispanics – to come into the country illegally to work? You guess it – Big Business.

    So, in reality the Republicans’ desire to make profit at all costs has actually brought the means to their eventual destruction – those dreaded minorities.

    I wonder if some Indian spirits somewhere are laughing at the stupidity of some of these white men?

  4. I love the way you put that, Lilac. You do have a way with words.

    I hope those Indian spirits are laughing! I know I am!

    karma — she is a bitch.

  5. Bad Biker

    Of course white men deserve credit for the creation of this country. It was white men that owned the slaves that built the White House. Without the efforts of those white men, President Obama and his family would have to sleep in a tent.

  6. lilacluvr

    As far as Affirmative Action goes, I have seen where some qualified white people are passed over in favor of a minority candidate.

    But then that same Affirmative Action has helped that white man’s wife to get a job over a minority man.

    So in the end – everyone gets discriminated against at some point in their life – don’t they?

    And whoever said life is fair?

  7. Bad Biker

    “Buchanan stated his objection to Sotomayor was she is a affirmative action selection and nothing more.”

    Nothing more, Pat? Of course I don’t know the history of every judge and lawyer in the country (thankfully) but I think you would be hard pressed to find a candidate that was MORE qualified than Judge Sonia Sotomayor.

    From education to private practice to the prosecutor’s office to a judge’s bench, she has been an outstanding citizen in every regard.

    Personally, I liken this scenario to 1947 and Jackie Robinson. Jackie had to be better than his peers, not equal to them. And he was, both as an athlete and a person.

    Sonia Sotomayor is being held to a higher standard than many or most previously successful nominees to the SCOTUS. Like Jackie, she has accepted the challenge and is facing GOP firing squad with dignity and class. Hell, I think she is actually enjoying the process.

    Pat Buchanan would be well served to follow this advice: STFU.

    But, as usual, he won’t.

  8. lilacluvr

    If you read the Republicans’ postings on the blogs and OL about Sonia Sotomayor, they rarely talk about the issues – they are more concerned with how many times she blinks when answering the questions and how many teeth is showing when she smiles.

    Now, you can’t argue with logic like excessive eye blinking and a toothy smile as being so negative as to warrant her banishment from even attempting to be seated at the Supreme Court – can you?

    (is my sarcasm showing?)

  9. With regards to Affirmative Action you are all right to a degree.

    The premise behind Affirmative Action was to tell corporations that they needed an Affirmative plan to both attract and promote qualified minority & female candidates. What some companies did was simply create quotas and unfortunately that is the stigma around AA that is carried today.

    The real shame is when qualified minorities and women that do get hired/promoted in middle/upper management jobs are perceived as AA hires versus people looking at their qualifications.

  10. Those who rant about affirative action refuse to recognize the long history that made it necessary.

    As for white men building this country, women could have done the same if they’d had someone to wash their clothes, cook their meals and keep their children out of their way.

    • . . . and probably done a better job.

    • lilacluvr

      I would venture to go even further and say that white men had it easy because they had their wives AND their slaves to tend to those menial tasks like every day living.

      It always amazed me to think that Southern whites were so against blacks but yet these white men and women would let the black woman slave be nannies to their children.

      Somehow, that just does not make any sense to me.

  11. lilacluvr

    But the practice of women and men who are willing to sleep their way to top keeps on going like nothing has changed.

    I think we have all known or worked with someone who could be classified as one of the Sleeping Beauties, haven’t we?

    But, this topic is a whole other story. These people didn’t need no stinkin Affirmative Action program – they had their own program before AA was even a glint in some politician’s eye.

  12. His remarks just go to prove the Republican party is going the way of the dinosaur. A grand old party, made up of old white men who have failed to keep up with the times for fear they might become obsolete. Well, their worst fears have caught up with them, and people like Buchanan, Limbaugh, Beck, Coulter, Hannity, et al, prove those fears to be true.

    My opinion? Fuck em and bash their racists ways every chance we get. They deserve nothing less.

  13. tosmarttobegop

    “Those who rant about affirmative action refuse to recognize the long history that made it necessary“.

    We can not forget the long history that made it necessary but neither can we make that history go away by substituting one race for another. The goal of affirmative action was to bring equality not one-up man-ship. It was not to make a minority a handicap who only achieve success by use of a give-me.

    bearmancartoon pointed out a couple of problems that have arise. One being:
    “The premise behind Affirmative Action was to tell corporations that they needed an Affirmative plan to both attract and promote qualified minority & female candidates. What some companies did was simply create quotas and unfortunately that is the stigma around AA that is carried today“.

    If the company fails to find a qualified minority, rather then to continue searching they hire a unqualified minority for no other reason then their skin color. What that means is that the qualified minority loses out as the opening is filled. They hard work and effort is trumped by not only the lesser qualified but the racism that brought about the quota.

    “The real shame is when qualified minorities and women that do get hired/promoted in middle/upper management jobs are perceived as AA hires versus people looking at their qualifications“.

    Judge Sotomayer did not get to be the outstanding appointee by give me’s she got an opportunity and worked her butt off and show that she is qualified.

    My friend at Wal-Mart was hired not because he had a good work record but because of the color of his skin. He was kept on even though he was a lousy worker because of the color of his skin and expected to do no better because of the color of his skin.
    That is racism for a quota, it did a disservice to him and those who he worked with.
    He was capable of doing better and when I finally confronted him about it he did.
    It amazed the management when he became a worthwhile employee because of the color of his skin they did not think he could do better. They only saw a Black man which was all he was worth to them. I saw the person and did not grade him by the color of his skin.
    LOL I miss Fred… He moved on and got a better job after he had established his worth for a better job. On his own worth and not on the color of his skin.

  14. tosmarttobegop

    The problem with seeing this as atonement for guilt. It should be a matter of what is right instead of guilt.
    If as a matter of guilt there comes a point where the feeling of guilt is felt atoned is reached and the effort stops. where it being a feeling of what is right it will continue.

  15. joseph

    Get used to it white guys. Whites are on track to becoming a minority and that minority number isnt going to stabalize or go up. Give it a hundred years from now and id be amazed if whites made up even 15% of the nations total population. Same with Europe, heavy immigration to there from Arab nations. there on track to being minorities aswell. Get used to it fellas !!

  16. signifyin' monkey

    OK so the dialectic that’s missing if affirmative action creates a space where less qualified blacks and hispanics are hired — it stands to reason that without affirmative action Whites had the luxury of being hired over more qualified blacks and hispanics. It’s only logical. Then let us not forget– please and you can check the statistics–Affirmative Action has benefited white women more than any other group. What keeps coming up here is the erasure of reality of slavery and its aftermath which includes Jim Crow. Simultaneously, I can’t believe that white people are naturally intellectually superior. Racism is real–institutional racism is real. Let’s look at our last president, George Bush. Are we actually saying that he was the ‘best’ person for the office of President of the United States? That is where the argument falls apart when we look at the reality of white supremacy in America.

  17. Hi signifyin’ monkey, and thanks for your input.

    I don’t want to know the person who might argue that George Bush was actually the best person for POTUS. 🙂

    It’s going to be interesting when white men are the minority they’ve never been in the past. I’m thinking some won’t handle it well. Shoot, some won’t even acknowledge it!