Tuesday, 07/07/09, Public Square

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48 responses to “Tuesday, 07/07/09, Public Square

  1. Mornin’ folks. Up and breathing, so it’s gotta be a good day. Enjoy!

  2. Some damned nice weather these last couple of days.
    The full moon is just awesome!

    Do you guys see the same moon, or do Kansans get EVERYTHING a year or two later?

  3. Yes. I really really need someone to explain to me why it is OK for people in the US to carry concealed weapons and guns etc. while people gasp at the thought and sight of women breastfeeding in public…

    Violence is OK apparently, but not something as natural as feeding your child.

  4. David B

    It was a 4000 with an X cup:

    • HA!….
      Just think of all the good Woody stuff GenX has never seen.

    • My favorite line:
      “Don’t worry, I know how to handle tits.”

    • wicked

      Woody Allen?


      I even stooped to watching Annie Hall because of Diane Keaton. She was, uh, very Diane Keatonish in it. LOL Replacing Woody with anyone else would have been a great improvement.

      Sekan, I’ll leave Woody to you. To each his own, ya know. 😉

      • Trip to the Outhouse

        In which movie is Diane Keaton not “Diane Keatonish”? There’s got to be about as many of those as there are of movies when Jim Carrey is not very “Jim Carreyish”. If I get my druthers, I’ll take the former.

      • wicked

        The answer to your question is none. But I’ve acquired a taste for her style and watch or buy as many Keaton movies as I can. Blame it on First Wives’ Club. For some reason that’s when I got hooked.

      • wicked

        BTW, I’ll take the former also. I don’t want Jim Carey.

  5. ladyfi,

    I’ve always thought it was because some people are soooo uptight about anything they deem sexual, they lose the beauty of nature, sex, humanity… They seem to need to compartmentalize and can’t let a breast out of the ‘sex’ box they’ve filed it in.

    Back in the 60s and early 70s, I fed my kids when they were hungry. I hope I shocked a few uptight idiots!

  6. David B

    Them special effects is fantastic!

  7. tosmarttobegop

    In the book “The bloody Benders” the author said it seem so ridicules that women would put lead in the hem of their skirts to prevent the wind from blowing it up and exposing the ankles. But no matter where they were if the baby was hungry they thought nothing of unbuttoning the top of their blouse and pulling out a breast on the city streets. One guy I worked with had been stationed in Germany, he thought it was odd that at the time a woman did not wear slacks as it was thought to be sexual. But that same woman if she went to the pool wore about as much as two band-aids and cork as a swimming suit.

    • Parsons history.
      The city jail used to make men and women alike work breaking rock with sledges. It was reported in the local paper, circa 1880’s that the jailer had to use his club on overheated women to force them to stay fully clothed. And I mean FULLY clothed.

    • wicked

      tstb, there was a time when women’s dresses were made of thin muslin. Once dressed, they were doused in water. Imagine how that would look. 😉

      Watch anything Elizabethan. You never get a better look at cleavage (or at least the top of mountainous breasts) than during that period. Remember the Zeffirelli’s Romeo and Juliet? I held my breath, waiting for Olivia Hussey to fall completely out of the top of her dress. Or take a look at Queen E the first’s photos. Same look. Same mounds of white.

  8. David B

    Senator Al Franken has been sworn in.

  9. wicked

    Romance in the news. Romance novels and writers, that is.

    *USA Today
    In April, Princeton University, home of F. Scott Fitzgerald and Edmund Wilson, hosted a scholarly conference titled “Love as the Practice of Freedom? Romance Fiction and American Culture.” The event brought together romance writers such as James/Bly and Jennifer Crusie, academics including Pamela Regis and Stephanie Coontz, and Smart Bitch blogger Wendell.

    “When I saw the invitation to speak at Princeton, I said, ‘Holy crap, we have arrived,’ ” says Regis, 56, an English professor at McDaniel College in Westminster, Md., and author of the seminal text, A Natural History of the Romance Novel.

    The conference organizer was DePaul University English professor Eric Selinger, 45. An expert in contemporary American poetry, Selinger’s career turned upside down in the late 1990s after he borrowed his wife’s copy of Bridget Jones’s Diary, the chick-lit classic by Helen Fielding.

    “I read it and I loved it,” Selinger says. For fun, he started reading the novels on a list compiled by his local library called “If you liked Bridget Jones’s Diary, try these …”

    He was amazed. Here he was, an English professor with a Ph.D. from UCLA who had been teaching books for decades and reading even longer. “Yet it never entered my mind to read a romance novel,” he says.

    Today, in addition to his poetry classes, Selinger teaches courses on the romance genre.

    Is it awkward to be a man doing so?

    Oh no, Selinger says. His gender makes his life much easier. “Nobody thinks I’m a spinster or trapped in a bad marriage, or I’m betraying feminism,” he says. “People don’t judge me as much.”


    Good article. I need to visit that blog, not to mention by the book. 🙂

    *The New Yorker interviews Nora Roberts – June 22 edition
    The woman grosses more than Stephen King and John Grisham. $60 mil a year.

    Gotta get that one.

    Just trying to educate you guys. LOL

    (Let’s hope I formatted all that correctly…)

  10. My son is headed back to Boston. It was a good week, and I’m sad to see him go.

  11. David B

    At least Al Franken had the advantage of being a comedian BEFORE being sworn in..

    I just got my spam mail from Brownback in which he parrots all the anti- Cap & Trade false talking points.
    * raise electricity rates by 90%
    * raise the cost of gasoline by 74%

  12. tosmarttobegop

    AND NOW! We will start the 24 hour coverage for the next 7 days.

    Once again the world will start spinning, other people will die sudden and tragic deaths.
    Soldiers will once again die in Afghanistan and Iraq though the news of their deaths will still be noted as nothing more then a few words on the ribbon that runs at the bottom of the screen.
    All this to help you in

    Sorry but this is maddening and more I had ended up watching Fox News just to find a cable channel that was not solely talking about Michael Jackson.
    I finally turn the channel after my ears started to bleed.

  13. Rent a movie. We watched Gran Torino last night.


    • wicked

      Aha! I see you’ve discovered IMDB, my second home. LOL

      It’s so nice to have answers to the ‘who was’ and
      ‘what movie/tvshow’ questions at my fingertips..

  14. tosmarttobegop

    We are too wrapped up with being prudish, I found myself one day in agreement with a movement that was started in NYC. A group of women were trying to get the law repealed that stated that women could not go top-less at the city beaches but men could. Their spokesperson made some valid points and after thinking about it I agreed.

    Later a friend confused to having a foot fetish which seemed odd at first to me. But stop and think about it?
    What is the real difference between the skin on you arm and the skin on your breast and/ or sex organs.
    Why should a fatty deposit be more sexual then a woman’s feet?

    What is sexually exciting about seeing a woman’s breast while breastfeeding? The reality is it is should be no more sexually exciting than see a woman going to the bedroom. The German’s often use nudity in ads for soap and showers. Because there is a difference between nudity and sex, you can be nude without it being sexual.

    The United States suffers from our prudishness, we do not have frank discussion with teens about sex and we do not do the logical things to prevent unwanted pregnancies because we are so hung up on taboos.

  15. Palin’s latest words:
    “Snow also asked Palin whether, if she runs for president, she could avoid the “political blood sport” she cited as among the reasons she wanted to leave office.

    “I don’t think it will be the day after day after day of ethics violation charges that are frivolous, that are ridiculous. I think on a national level your department of law there in the White House would look at this, the things we have been charged with, and automatically throw them out, not make somebody hire their own personal attorney to get out there and fight.”

    There is no “department of law” at the White House, though Palin appears to have been referring to the White House counsel’s office.”

    Is there a brain in that head?

    • Read the most recent at Mudflats. Her resignation is going to force a “special” legislative session.

      “What else comes with a special session, besides cranky legislators, and extra business? A big fat price tag is what. Based on previous estimates, we could expect the costs to run well into six figures. Wasn’t one of the reasons Palin decided to drop the ball and walk off the court “pass the ball” and resign as governor because her presence was supposedly costing the state money? Just askin’.”

    • “And, of course it goes without saying that she failed to mention that the Personnel Board actually did “look at some of the things that we’ve been charged with and automatically throw them out.” The process of filing and following through with ethics complaints allows for something that is baseless on its face to be immediately tossed, which some of them were.
      Nor did she mention that the troopergate investigation, and the ethics complaint she filed against herself to get the negative opinion from the legislature refuted by a friendly board that released the results the day before the election were the bulk of the money. Nor did she mention the almost $10,000 she paid back to the state after claiming her children’s travel expenses. Nor did she mention that there are still outstanding ethics complaints, and two lawsuits out there which may not come down in her favor. Details.”


    • Bad Biker

      Apparently, Palin has chosen to ignore the MILLIONS of dollars in legal fees that the Clintons ran up during the White Water/Starr Report investigations. What was it – $11 mil?

      If she thinks that she has probs now, just wait until she gets her sorry ass into the White House and the wolves REALLY come knocking at the door.

      Every time she has ever farted in public will be subject to an investigation by SOMEONE.

      Damn, the woman is either naive or stupid or both.

  16. PrairiePond

    “I held my breath, waiting for Olivia Hussey to fall completely out of the top of her dress.”

    Meeeeee tooooooooo! I was only 12, and I didnt know why. I had a HUGE crush on her. Learned to play “A Time for Us” on the guitar. Thought about that movie constantly.

    At least now I know why!

    • Trip to the Outhouse

      I had the LP soundtrack, but in the movie, I was pretty much focused Leonard Whiting’s “assets”. 😉

  17. PrairiePond

    “Ya, isn’t Austin, Texas, named after her?”

    hehehe. HAHAHAHAHHA!

    Good one Jammers!

  18. David B


    Galloway on McNamara: Reading an obit with great pleasure

    By Joseph L. Galloway
    “I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure.” —Clarence Darrow (1857–1938)

    Well, the aptly named Robert Strange McNamara has finally shuffled off to join LBJ and Dick Nixon in the 7th level of Hell.

    McNamara was the original bean-counter — a man who knew the cost of everything but the worth of nothing.

    Back in 1990 I had a series of strange phone conversations with McNamara while doing research for my book We Were Soldiers Once And Young. McNamara prefaced every conversation with this: “I do not want to comment on the record for fear that I might distort history in the process.” Then he would proceed to talk for an hour, doing precisely that with answers that were disingenuous in the extreme — when they were not bald-faced lies.

    Upon hanging up I would call Neil Sheehan and David Halberstam and run McNamara’s comments past them for deconstruction and the addition of the truth.

    The only disagreement i ever had with Dave Halberstam was over the question of which of us hated him the most. In retrospect, it was Halberstam.

    When McNamara published his first book — filled with those distortions of history — Halberstam, at his own expense, set out on a journey following McNamara on his book tour around America as a one-man truth squad.

    McNamara abandoned the tour.

    The most bizarre incident involving McNamara occurred when he was president of the World Bank and, off on his summer holiday, he caught the Martha’s Vineyard ferry. It was a night crossing in bad weather. McNamara was in the salon, drink in hand, schmoozing with fellow passengers. On the deck outside a vineyard local, a hippie artist, glanced through the window and did a double-take. The artist was outraged to see McNamara, whom he viewed as a war criminal, so enjoying himself.

    He immediately opened the door and told McNamara there was a radiophone call for him on the bridge. McNamara set down his drink and stepped outside. The artist immediately grabbed him, wrestled him to the railing and pushed him over the side. McNamara managed to get his fingers through the holes in the metal plate that ran from the top of the railing to the scuppers.

    McNamara was screaming bloody murder; the artist was prying his fingers loose one at a time. Someone heard the racket and raced out and pulled the artist off.

    By the time the ferry docked in the vineyard McNamara had decided against filing charges against the artist, and he was freed and walked away.

  19. PrairiePond

    Heheheh Trip. High five. It aint easy being the only petunia in the onion patch in kansas.

  20. PrairiePond

    OK, so…

    Best headline ever? From Yahoo News tonight.

    “Democrats wave Franken as trophy over limping GOP”

    Second best headline ever? From the same source:

    “Democrats control 60 Senate seats and GOP issues a warning”


    They control only forty seats and THEY are issuing the warnings?

    Jesus wept.

    Could someone please help the senate democrats
    ‘splain it all to the repubs?

    Or would that require a spine?

  21. wicked


    I answered a question from someone named elaine on your old blog. Not sure if you got a notice that someone had posted. It was a 2007 thread, so I’m surprised she found it. LOL