04/16/09 Public Square


According to google images, this beautiful and serene setting was photographed in western Kansas and is filed under “prairie.” Isn’t it gorgeous!?

So lean on that fence and let’s visit while we drink in the beauty of our state.



Filed under Kansas History, The Environment, The Public Square

45 responses to “04/16/09 Public Square

  1. Bad Biker

    Good mornin’ ya’ll! I am off to work my re-mod project for a friend – back later. Did I tell you that sheetrocking sucks? Well, it does and I haven’t even started the mud and tape phase.

    Give my best to Mary – she and her hubby will be in my thoughts today.

    Be good, or don’t get caught!

    PS: Did I tell you that sheetrocking sucks?

  2. Hey biker, sheetrocking sucks.
    fnord, it doesn’t look like the recent comments are showing up under RSS feeds now, I might hafta play with that some more, or just add the recent comments widget back.

  3. Ummm, I guess I meant recent POSTS.

  4. iggydonnelly

    It seems like to me, on the recent posts, it takes a little bit for them to show up, FWIW… Not sure why that is.

  5. Okay, I’ll just have to grow some patience.

    I need it for this census training anyway. The older lady that I’m stuck sitting with is about to drive me nuts. The instructor has said a million times,
    “Now stay with me and the rest of us, don’t read ahead and/or go off on tangents.”
    This stuff is not THAT hard. I guess some folks just naturally make things more complicated than they are. Next time I hear “What if….” I may hafta let out a primal scream.
    See ya’ll later today. sekan/out.

  6. I like the change you made! So play with it until you get it perfected. But don’t bury yourself in the bowels and forget about blogging — we need your input out here and will excuse the grease on your cheeks and nose since we know you’ve been tuning us up.

  7. Was that a choke collar or an extension leash the president was holding yesterday? An anxious nation wants to know.

  8. As 6176 predicted, the case against “The Bush Six,” probably will go nowhere.

    “In a dramatic turn in Madrid this morning, Spain attorney general has stepped into the case involving former U.S. Attorney General Alberto Gonzales and five former senior administration lawyers, overruling the decision of career prosecutors to adopt a criminal complaint against them and to proceed with an investigation. But this does not mark the end of the case—it now goes back to Judge Balthazar Garzon, who had originally launched the case and must decide whether it will go forward notwithstanding the Spanish attorney general’s call.”

    continued at:

  9. TheProfessor

    Hey folks. Once our group got on site at yesterday afternoon’s Teabag Tantrum, saw the lack of police presence / supervision, and felt the angry mood, we TOTALLY wussed out of showing up. Which is a bit of a shame, because our guy shot video of the Libertarians, SHOUTING DOWN ‘ol Sam the Sham Brownback’s stump speech. To be shown up the Libertarians. Oh, the shame. We will have to orchestrate some master stroke in order to redeem ourselves.

    Arlo was great last night, btw. Highlights: “City of New Orleans” (obvious), “Days are Short” (unexpected gem from the album “Hobo’s Lullaby”), and the achingly beautiful lost Woody song, “My Peace.” The Burns Sisters on backup added quite a lot to the ambiance and fullness. What a showman.

  10. So, could I read into this that you were ‘shown up’ by Libertarians, at least partly, because Arlo’s show was about to begin? 😉

    Is his son a good entertainer? Is this now at least three generations of Guthries who will please the audience?

  11. fnord, no particular prescience needed to make the prediction. Just a look at cold reality.

  12. lilacluvr

    Did anyone else hear Rush Limbaugh go on and on about his ‘unconfirmed’ story about the Somali pirates being three misguided black kids that Obama ordered to be shot? He went on to say these pirates were wanting to surrender and Obama went ahead and took them out. Of course, his point was that if this was a white president that there would be an outrage at such action.

    I heard this on MSNBC last night on Keith Olberman or Rachel Maddow (or both). I can’t remember.

    I thought to myself that this may be just the over-step Rush has made. Because when the sea captain comes home and tells his story – I wonder if he will be feeling sorry for these three black misguided kids? Or will he remember the AK-47 stuck in his back?

    I’m curious as to what exactly the truth is about this one.

  13. Rush and his followers cannot stand the thought that yet another of their beliefs about President Obama proved false, so the attempt is on to discredit the action (which would have been loudly cheered in the same circles had it been Pres. McCain).

    Misguided youths? May be, but I’d bet that if it had been GWB, the response would have been something to the effect of hey, we don’t care how misguided they were, they were acting as pirates, and threatened the life of a U.S. citizen, so they got what they deserved.

  14. “Thanks L in da. I don’t need a thing. Our daughter lives only two blocks from the hospital, so I can run there to take showers, catch a nap, etc. Thank you for your support and concern.

    Thank all the bloggers so much for all the good thoughts and prayers. Dave is moving out of intensive care this morning, he is feeling better, but has a very long road ahead. Please keep all that good energy coming our way. Love, Mary”

  15. jammer5

    And here you have it. That bastion of American mediocrity hisself telling us how evil our President is. A President, who by the way, Limbaugh is neither intelligent enough nor American enough to carry his jockstrap.


    RUSH: You know what we have learned about the Somali pirates, the merchant marine organizers that were wiped out at the order of Barack Obama, you know what we learned about them? They were teenagers. The Somali pirates, the merchant marine organizers who took a US merchant captain hostage for five days were inexperienced youths, the defense secretary, Roberts Gates, said yesterday, adding that the hijackers were between 17 and 19 years old. Now, just imagine the hue and cry had a Republican president ordered the shooting of black teenagers on the high seas. Greetings and welcome back, Rush Limbaugh, the Excellence in Broadcasting Network and the Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies.

    They were kids. The story is out, I don’t know if it’s true or not, but apparently the hijackers, these kids, the merchant marine organizers, Muslim kids, were upset, they wanted to just give the captain back and head home because they were running out of food, they were running out of fuel, they were surrounded by all these US Navy ships, big ships, and they just wanted out of there. That’s the story, but then when one of them put a gun to the back of the captain, Mr. Phillips, then bam, bam, bam. There you have it, and three teenagers shot on the high seas at the order of President Obama. David “Rodham” Gergen was discussing the ramifications of this last night. Let’s go to sound bite eight. We’ll use number eight. He was on Anderson Cooper 360 last night. Cooper said, “Does Obama need to move forward in this –” by the way, the Somali merchant marine organizers have hijacked four more ships today, four more ships have been hijacked.

  16. g-stir

    This something that undoubtedly will show up “you know where” , and be treated Gospel!
    And then, “they’re” off and running. Lemmings, that is.

    • lilacluvr

      Even in Rush’s own words – these teenagers put a gun to Capt. Phillip’s back and that was when all three were shot.

      So since when has it been the Republicans’ position that we simply let kidnappers let their hostage go and all is forgiven? Wasn’t it Rush, Newt or one of the other wacko Fox talking heads that was just advocating going in and dropping bombs?

      How is dropping bombs any different than shooting the known 3 pirates (even though they were teenages) for actually holding the gun to the back of the captain.

      I know, I know, I am thinking like a rational, intelligent person. This is not Rush’s preferred crowd.

      Like I stated before, I am waiting for the return of Capt. Phillips and see how he reacts to Rush’s version of what happened. Surely, someone, somewhere will be holding Rush’s feet to the fire on this one.

      Rush has done and said stupid things before, but there is a limit – isn’t there?

  17. g-stir

    I’m refering to Jammer’s 10:17 post.

  18. jammer5

    Ya, I admit: I threw em a bone. Being laid off, one gets bored sometimes. It reminds me of throwing a dead chicken into a mass of hungry crocs, and watching em gnaw.

  19. jammer5

    . . . and the gnawing starts . . .

  20. wicked

    I think you’ll enjoy this one:


    I shall return…sometime today. Do I ever get a break? Oh, that’s right, I don’t. No rest for wicked.

  21. wicked

    BTW, fnord, before I forget, you are hereby ordered to get yourself on Facebook. So sayeth the Queen of Procrastination.

  22. Hey, I have a Facebook! It’s not actually under fnord — I used my really name.

    Have you seen the picture of Mary & Dave she has on the front page of her Facebook page? Man, I love that picture!

    Shoot, I’m Facebook friends with 6176, sekan, QnofHrts, I’ve asked to be a friend of Biker but he ignored my request…

    Now, I don’t know anything about Facebook or how to use it or about anything else you could ask or wonder, but I have one. My grandson set it up for me and although he is all the way on the west coast, I see a tiny bit of what he’s doing every day. 😉

    Back to the cleaning. I am making progress! But I think the scientific experiment I found in the fridge shouldn’t be written up and submitted to any scientific journals.

  23. I’ve a long term experiment going in the fridge; about another six months or so, should be ready for analysis and an article.

  24. Just for fun — a driving simulator using google maps google earth…


  25. Well, well; during the second term of the Bush administration, the NSA conducted a warrantless wiretap of a member of Congress:

    If any of you have the time, you could lend a hand as suggested in the linked article.

    Interesting, no?

  26. That article is very interesting, 6176!

    On another interesting topic — have we heard whether President Obama will keep those CIA memos secret? The deadline was today to comply with the lawsuit filed by the ACLU.

    Many are pointing to these words from his Inauguration speech, “As for our common defense, we reject as false the choice between our safety and our ideals,” as well as his promises to be more transparent, and to lend more respect to the Constitution with regard to civil liberties as making their release necessary. In fact, they’re saying if he does not release them, he is endorsing the Bush-era tactics.

  27. Here’s an interesting op-ed piece by a former Palin supporter. He finally made conclusions many of us made soon after McCain selected her as his running mate!

    He sums up his reasons for changing his opinion with these words, “What I’m wondering is: has Sarah Palin undergone some kind of secret lobotomy?”


  28. iggydonnelly

    Obama is releasing the CIA memos, but won’t be seeking prosecution of participants.

    “Saying that it is a ‘time for reflection, not retribution,’ Mr Obama reiterated his opposition to a extensive investigation of controversial counterterrorism programs.”


    A time for “reflection” not “retribution”. Well, hmmm…

  29. iggydonnelly

    I’ve reflected. It’s time for retribution.

    No one is above the law, even if you have bogus attorney opinions backing you up.

  30. iggydonnelly

    “. . .we TOTALLY wussed out of showing up.”

    I would say the above was a pretty smart action. Folks who proudly fly their flags of the opposition to the war of “Northern Aggression” always make me a little nervous. But, then again, I am a lifetime member of the Greater Wichita Wuss club.

  31. iggy, we are going to need to agree to disagree on your point of it is time for retribution. Yes, the attorneys’ opinions upon which reliance was placed were “bogus” in my opinion. Saying this, I come down on reflection, a reflection that will hopefully result in this type of stuff not ever being authorized again.

  32. Bad Biker

    My fellow miscreants and other socially unacceptable types (that is a compliment, by the way) I have some advice for you – free advice and you can thank me later……..

    Should you ever get an idea that it would be a good plan to rip out the paneling in a room in your older home and resheetrock it so it looked lovely and modern, take this action instead: Head down to your local liquor store and buy a case of beer or a large bottle of rye. After arriving home, proceed to begin drinking heavily until you change your mind or you pass out. Hopefully, when you come to, the idea in your head will have died along with the brain cells killed by the alcohol.

    If you are a non-drinker, just pound your head against a wall, concrete preferred, until you achieve the same result as noted.

    Under no circumstances should you attempt this sort of remodeling project unless you burn the house down first.

    Thank me later………………………………………


  33. I’m always seeing something on HGTV that looks really easy and wonderful! Hubby says he would like to have a tier of programing that excludes HGTV, if someone wise won’t actually ban HGTV from the airways, which would be his first choice for the network. I really don’t understand why you men have to make things so difficult!? It looks so easy!

  34. wicked


    The same goes for anyone who believes they can switch 3 bedrooms (one an office, another inhabited by two under 25 warring sisters) in a weekend.

    Both sofas are loaded with boxes. We still have a ceiling-high set of shelves and a 5-drawer Govt. issue file cabinet to move, along with said boxes, if there’s a place for them.

    My body has been aching all week. The rain didn’t help. I thought I’d lost the power cord to my external hard drive, and I have no idea where anything is…except a couple of hampers of clothes that need a visit to the washing machine. There’s nowhere to sit in the living room, and the only room in the house that doesn’t contain boxes is the bathroom.

    And now they want to get the three closets switched this weekend. I want a vacation.

  35. David B

    I pulled out old lath & plaster walls and sheet-rocked over the lath in my old turn of the century house. I even added an arched doorway. I was not living in the house at the time, though, I was in an apartment. It does give you the opportunity to upgrade the electricity – and consider ethernet… Insulation issues can be addressed. Ahh, tape, mud, sand, tape, mud, sand. Tape, mud sand sand sand.

    I do not envy you, brother!

  36. Bad Biker

    Ah, the joys (?) of remodeling…………………..

    One, I have a serious problem with OCD/perfectionism. Two, I am an idiot. Three, I have a serious problem with OCD/perfectionism.

    The combination of 1 + 3 + 2 = insanity.

    Dig this: I cut a perfect piece of sheetrock, a masterpiece. I always measure twice, mark and then measure my marks. With an old house, you quickly learn to measure in two places. I did.

    What I didn’t notice was the ceiling bowed in the middle – when I tried to fit my masterpiece – the damned thing was off by a quarter inch in the middle.

    Rasp. Lots of rasping to work down a quarter of an inch in the middle while maintaining on each end.

    The studs (calm down KSGrannie) vary from 21 inches to 8 inches. (Stay calm Grm.) Try hitting those stud with a screw (I said stay calm KSGRM!) gun.

    On top of all that, the studs are so hard (jeez, GRM just had a fantasy fulfilled) that the drywall nails spin out before they hit bottom.

    This all sucks and has lead to serious after-hours drinking and grey hair for me!


    Next time I am asked to do a project like this on the cheap (that is why I didn’t just tear everything out and start from scratch) I am going to say, “Not NO!!!!!, but HELL NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

  37. wicked

    All this stud talk. tsk tsk

    My daughter and I stopped at Home Depot after I picked her up from work the other night. She was looking for a stud finder. (Little did I know that Wal-Mart had one for the same price.) We couldn’t find a finder. We finally capitulated and asked a female clerk. She didn’t know. She asked the male clerk. Of course his answer was, “I’m right here.” We all groaned.

    “Stud-finder” is our newest family joke now.

  38. David B

    What, houses aren’t supposed to be out of square and ‘leany’?

    You can get an idea of the tea party sentiments by viewing Bob Week’s slideshow at http://www.flickr.com/photos/bobweeks/sets/72157616840437764/

    Bob Weeks is the guy who really organized this thing, I’m pretty sure.
    ( http://www.linkedin.com/in/bobweeks )

    Mostly appears to be anti-tax types… Of course, no one likes taxes, but Americans pay less in taxes than all other developed nation. But it’s what you get in return that counts… and that’s one place we get the short end of the stick.

    Be sure to see some replies to unhappy American taxpayers… http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-reich/a-short-citizens-guide-to_b_187485.html

  39. Didn’t Bob Weeks head one of the groups in opposition to the school bond issue last fall? I can’t place his face (looked at the link posted), but his name sounds familiar. I’m sure I don’t know him, yet he sounds like someone I’ve heard about.

  40. lilacluvr

    I just wonder how these people think the country will be run if no one pays taxes? Are these people willing to buy their own roads, build their own schools for their kids, pay for their own police and fire protection?

    It would be great if no one had to pay taxes but let’s be realistic here.

    There were taxes in the Bible times, so I think the issue of taxes has been around for a lot of years and will probably stay around for a lot of years to come – don’t you?

    Maybe these Evangelical Christianl Conservative Republicans need to re-read their Bibles.

  41. lilacluvr

    fnord – maybe this Bob Weeks is someone that is against everything? Maybe he is one of these people that just need a cause.

    But, God love him, he is out there and trying his best – isn’t he?